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[Ruwk]

My suggestion is to add a new game mode, a "PvP Based" account. This will help Alora grow substantially by targeting a whole different audience of players - those who strictly play RSPS' to "Spawn & PK" (they wouldn't actually be able to spawn, that's just a commonly used) and not have to train or make money.

Main mechanics of PvP Based accounts:

• Ability to set your levels
• All quests automatically complete
• Large majority of items in shops would be free
• Rare drop items still have to be acquired through PvM or BH shop
• Only able to trade, duel and have dropped items to appear to other PvP Based accounts
• Normal accounts wouldn't receive loot upon killing a PvP Based accounts

Other possible concepts:

• Normal accounts have the option to disable combat with PvP Based accounts
• Voting rewards may be different for PvP Based accounts, Bonus PKP instead of Bonus XP
• Could have a red skull icon next to their name to indicate they are a PvP Based account

Would you like to see the wilderness more active? Please leave your feedback in a response. Leave a like on the thread if you support!

[Take Notes]

sounds bad in more than 1 way

[FASTCLICKS7]

Would ruin Alora, no, just no.

[MADASFUK]

Would never possibly work on a server like this.

[sklp]

I think it's a cool idea but don't see it happening realistically.

 

 

Would never possibly work on a server like this.

 

Would ruin Alora, no, just no.

 

sounds bad in more than 1 way

Why don't any of you explain why you think it is a bad idea?

[MADASFUK]

I think it's a cool idea but don't see it happening realistically.

 

 

 

 

Why don't any of you explain why you think it is a bad idea?

These things would only ever work on servers where EVERYBODY pk's and EVERYBODY gets maxed stats (Literally servers made for pking only with minimal pvming.) On a server based largely on PVMing it'd be borderline impossible to add a "pk account" start which is given maxed stats in a useful way without either completely ruining the economy or making the PK accounts literally pointless (If they can't trade with anybody else then its basically a pking ironman which again, isnt really the point of pking.)

 

Also dividing the already small Pking playerbase between 2 types of accounts for pking that cant attack each other would do more harm than good.

 

Also also the main point of all the previous pking suggestions by myself and others has been to make pking a viable moneymaker compared to pvming (if you think about it, on rs/a lot of previous rsps pking has been a better moneymaker than pvm, im not asking for that but just it to be comparable money to pvm, which it currently isnt.) This suggestion is literally the opposite of this since the money made pking has no real use in the actual game seeing as they cant trade at all.

 

I can go on if you want me to.

[Ruwk]

These things would only ever work on servers where EVERYBODY pk's and EVERYBODY gets maxed stats (Literally servers made for pking only with minimal pvming.) On a server based largely on PVMing it'd be borderline impossible to add a "pk account" start which is given maxed stats in a useful way without either completely ruining the economy or making the PK accounts literally pointless (If they can't trade with anybody else then its basically a pking ironman which again, isnt really the point of pking.)

Also dividing the already small Pking playerbase between 2 types of accounts for pking that cant attack each other would do more harm than good.

Also also the main point of all the previous pking suggestions by myself and others has been to make pking a viable moneymaker compared to pvming (if you think about it, on rs/a lot of previous rsps pking has been a better moneymaker than pvm, im not asking for that but just it to be comparable money to pvm, which it currently isnt.) This suggestion is literally the opposite of this since the money made pking has no real use in the actual game seeing as they cant trade at all.

I can go on if you want me to.

I don't think you get the point. it's not an "ironman" cause they can trade within their own type and it would create a separate economy. The point of this is not for normal accounts to make more money PKing at all.

There is no negative effect, to normal accounts, that I can think of. It's an option. You can still PK on a normal account just as you did before. only thing this would do is possibly increase wilderness activity within normal accounts, but that's not too likely. At least not to a large percent.

That's why this idea is to attract NEW players, and benefit current ones in a different way if PKing takes their interest. it's definitely a good suggestion, especially from a business standpoint, Why do you think some big servers release two worlds? Except this is integrated into one which makes no difference.

[MADASFUK]

I don't think you get the point. it's not an "ironman" cause they can trade within their own type and it would create a separate economy. The point of this is not for normal accounts to make more money PKing at all.

There is no negative effect, to normal accounts, that I can think of. It's an option. You can still PK on a normal account just as you did before. only thing this would do is possibly increase wilderness activity within normal accounts, but that's not too likely. At least not to a large percent.

That's why this idea is to attract NEW players, and benefit current ones in a different way if PKing takes their interest. it's definitely a good suggestion, especially from a business standpoint, Why do you think some big servers release two worlds? Except this is integrated into one which makes no difference.

Im not going to argue with you because you clearly know nothing. This would not be good for the server at all. It would do nothing to increase pking. The whole problem of pking right now is theres no incentive to do it (Its not good enough money) and you LITERALLY said this makes no money. Im trying to put this a nice way without just insulting you but like i said you know nothing. Please re-read what i said repeatedly until you understand why this is a bad idea.

[Greer]

I don't think that this will positively change the PK habits. It's something far deeper towards the core of the server that we need to change and in particular the connection between PVMing. Items are too expensive, there are no proper shops to purchase proper gear and it isn't really stimulated by any means...

 

By accompanying your suggestion we're not really fixing the core problem and thus I deem the suggestion almost useless. 

I mean.. if you put this in the only people that will make accounts like this are the people that would PK anyway.

[Gatsby]

Although it's a cool idea I just don't see it working; good suggestion though!

[Ruwk]

Im not going to argue with you because you clearly know nothing. This would not be good for the server at all. It would do nothing to increase pking. The whole problem of pking right now is theres no incentive to do it (Its not good enough money) and you LITERALLY said this makes no money. Im trying to put this a nice way without just insulting you but like i said you know nothing. Please re-read what i said repeatedly until you understand why this is a bad idea.

First of all, don't act like you know anything more than me. Because you don't. And let me clarify for a second time because you were on too big of a trip to get it the first time - The point of this is not to increase PKing within regular accounts, nor is it meant to give any sort of incentive for regular accounts to PK. This is a completely different matter. And it will not affect normal accounts in any single way. That argument is almost like saying playing as an ironman effects a normal account. They are different and completely separate game modes that don't conflict with each other in any way.

It's totally fine if you don't support the idea and have your own opinion on it. But don't try to say "without being insulting" and then continue to insult me anyways due to your own ignorance.

[MADASFUK]

First of all, don't act like you know anything more than me. Because you don't. And let me clarify for a second time because you were on too big of a trip to get it the first time - The point of this is not to increase PKing within regular accounts, nor is it meant to give any sort of incentive for regular accounts to PK. This is a completely different matter. And it will not affect normal accounts in any single way. That argument is almost like saying playing as an ironman effects a normal account. They are different and completely separate game modes that don't conflict with each other in any way.

It's totally fine if you don't support the idea and have your own opinion on it. But don't try to say "without being insulting" and then continue to insult me anyways due to your own ignorance.

I would be willing to bet i know a fair bit more than you on what the server needs in terms of pking. This suggestion is borderline useless and will not help the server in any way whatsoever, in fact it'd take it further away from what its trying to achieve by dividing the pk community. You can argue with me as much as you want but it wont change the fact that this is a god awful idea.

 

To further prove my point, Check out the amount of negative responses your pking suggestion thread got compared to the support that mine got and you can probably figure out i know more about this topic than you.

 

http://www.alora.io/...ng-suggestions/

[Ruwk]

 

I mean.. if you put this in the only people that will make accounts like this are the people that would PK anyway.

I'm confused by what you said because, what I quoted here, is exactly the point of this. For people who would only PK. It's not useless because it brings more and new players to the server.

I would be willing to bet i know a fair bit more than you on what the server needs in terms of pking. This suggestion is borderline useless and will not help the server in any way whatsoever, in fact it'd take it further away from what its trying to achieve by dividing the pk community. You can argue with me as much as you want but it wont change the fact that this is a god awful idea.

 

To further prove my point, Check out the amount of negative responses your pking suggestion thread got compared to the support that mine got and you can probably figure out i know more about this topic than you.

Maybe you do know slightly more about what this server needs in terms of PKing on a normal account, because I know I don't PK on here as much as you. I'd rather PK on 07 in a real singles team rather than on a random team on a dead server (when it comes to PKing) XD

And dividing the community? At a very minimal percentage. Like I said, what about other big servers who open two worlds, one Eco and one PvP? Are they dividing their community? Yes. But they gain a whole lot more new players and more money as a result. This is literally the same thing but instead, it's integrating it into one world.

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