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[11 is dead]

What is your suggestion?:
Have ToB deaths have Status of hardcores taken , in otherwords like Zulrah ..Gwd , an unsafe death .
Is this in OSRS?:
Yes

Has this suggestion been accepted already?:
Checked and haven't seen similiar suggestion

How would this benefit Alora?:
The idea of obtaining BIS items without the risk of losing hardcore status without the exception of
Inferno which players have the option of practicing before attempting with tokens/donor ranks
Is insane .. you’re pretty much getting the best weapons ingame without risking your status , CoX isn’t included because OSRS had made it safe for whatever reason .
A small QoL.
More accomplished Hardcore players that have actually risked their account for the best items, Isn’t that the point of playing a hardcore account ?

[Elite]

No support, it was released as safe nearly 2 years ago, don't see a point in changing now considering thousands of hcim's have died in there in the past it's practically impossible to back log all those, and unfair to make none of their deaths matter but everyone's going forward result in losing status'

[11 is dead]

No support, it was released as safe nearly 2 years ago, don't see a point in changing now considering thousands of hcim's have died in there in the past it's practically impossible to back log all those, and unfair to make none of their deaths matter but everyone's going forward result in losing status'

While this may be true , I can be bet hardcores wouldn’t have their status with the items coming out of here going forward anyway , and that still doesn’t take away from the fact that this is still PvM content just like almost all others which include an unsafe death

[11]

No support. The piece of content has been out for too long to altar it in such a way. Too many Hardcores have already gotten multiple items with no risk thus defeating the purpose for future hardcores. Not to mention the issue with dead clicks, buggy tick changes, and just a few bugs at bosses makes it too big of a risk in that alone.

Not to mention this is awkward coming from someone who hasn’t even done a single TOB run on their hardcore.

[11 is dead]

No support. The piece of content has been out for too long to altar it in such a way. Too many Hardcores have already gotten multiple items with no risk thus defeating the purpose for future hardcores. Not to mention the issue with dead clicks, buggy tick changes, and just a few bugs at bosses makes it too big of a risk in that alone.
Not to mention this is awkward coming from someone who hasn’t even done a single TOB run on their hardcore.

That reason has already been mentioned & I’ve done tobs in this server enough times to say its so much easier then OSRS & I have screenies if you want of some purple chests i’ve gotten on alora if you really think it’s necessary , though thanks for the runelite lookup arguement .. I think that needed to be cleared up .

[selenaG]

Even though you meme me in your signature, support

I know that there is some issues with tob (dead clicks (i dont really get these, when i fuck up i just blame it on that) and im not really sure of any other issues in there other than nylos randomly smacking you hard as fuck. 

 

but ive done plenty of runs with no deaths and i know others have as well, and if people are going to say "others can kill you in tob" they can, dont play with people who you dont trust if youre a hardcore :)

[beans n cake]

I'm neutral. Currently I feel HC as long as you don't afk at bosses doesn't have as much risk and TOB is one of the riskier things for a HC in osrs. But with there also being bugs, loosing your status to a bug is also not good

[11 is dead]

Even though you meme me in your signature, support
I know that there is some issues with tob (dead clicks (i dont really get these, when i fuck up i just blame it on that) and im not really sure of any other issues in there other than nylos randomly smacking you hard as fuck.

but ive done plenty of runs with no deaths and i know others have as well, and if people are going to say "others can kill you in tob" they can, dont play with people who you dont trust if youre a hardcore :)

To Add to this .. unlike OSRS you can actually teleport out if you feel like your team-mates aren’t up to par
of your safety in the raid .

[BuccScratchr]

No support. This would be unfair to new HCIM players or those that haven't gotten the BIS items.

[11 is dead]

No support. This would be unfair to new HCIM players or those that haven't gotten the BIS items.

No “New” player should be doing ToB in the first place as it is end game content & not really they could safely camp CoX for a tbow .
Thats BIS , next ?

[Sheep]

No support, when it was released this was discussed, actual update log:

 

FAQ:

• Will this count as a dangerous death for Hardcore Ironmen?
  • No. We feel that this is too limiting, and we’d like our HCIM to be able to participate in this content.

I do still think this applies here, that’s why I’m not in favour of this.

[Sassa fras]

Support. There is very little danger to HCIM accounts once they reach the Raids endgame.. .the only dangers I can think of for players at this stage are grinding Corp for a sigil (RIP Proxy, King, et al.), and of course the dreaded DC while doing random slaying/bossing. HCIM is supposed to be a challenging gamemode, and TOB is dangerous in OSRS.... when the TOB dev blog was announced, the community even slightly favored the OSRS death mechanics.

 

I highly doubt this gets changed though, it's been out for so long. But there is already precedent for changing HCIM death mechanics, so it could be done again.

[11 is dead]

Support. There is very little danger to HCIM accounts once they reach the Raids endgame.. .the only dangers I can think of for players at this stage are grinding Corp for a sigil (RIP Proxy, King, et al.), and of course the dreaded DC while doing random slaying/bossing. HCIM is supposed to be a challenging gamemode, and TOB is dangerous in OSRS.... when the TOB dev blog was announced, the community even slightly favored the OSRS death mechanics.
 
I highly doubt this gets changed though, it's been out for so long. But there is already precedent for changing HCIM death mechanics, so it could be done again.

Yeah & even then Hardcores just wait for corp events to obtain uniques so its really almost no danger at all at the end game

[mochiii]

Can we just change the title of this topic to "HC Ashley doesn't deserve her status" k thx.

[TOB Planker]

I support this to a certain extent; Right now, I do not believe TOb should be a unsafe death for HC's just because there are some bugs in Tob that can kill you and not be your fault

[2 Ridiculous]

Id support this even though i doubt it would be changed

[Extremedanny]

Support. Even though hardcores from the last got their items from tob already its still good for the future of the gamemode.

[Hint]

Support, would add an "extra" danger to getting the BIS melee weapons in the game for HCIM and it would be an even bigger achivement to get them on a HCIM and survive. 

 

Also it brings the game closer to more like OSRS.

[lol Rip]

I support.  There seems to be very little danger to HCs once they get to a certain level. 

 

The arguement that it has always been this way so don't change it now is NOT a valid arguement.  Yes, it has always been that way but that doesn't mean it can't change for the better.  This is true for all walks of life and all discussions.

 

I think this would provide some sort of achievement for HCs going forward.  Yes, some will have gotten purples before that update but eventually that won't matter.  The skilled TOBers will still be able to run the raid.

[Omicron]

Maybe this suggestion would be better suited as a polled suggestion. On the one hand, it would be more accurate to make ToB deaths cause you to lose your HC status, and would add some risk to end-game content, but on the other hand, it would cause integrity issues due to the fact that some HC's have already completed ToB, and had the (huge) advantage of doing it without worrying about death.