17 replies to this topic

[Mhk]

What is your suggestion?: 

Change the order that fulfilling buy offers are prioritized, specifically filter buy orders by highest gp offer, then by age.

 

Is this in OSRS?: N/a

 

Has this suggestion been accepted already?: No

 

How would this benefit Alora?: 

Encourage actually pricing offers near the correct amount instead of defaulting to the oldest offers.

Currently, if someone lists a twisted bow for 100m and someone has an offer for 1b but there is an older offer for 100m, it will sell the item for 100m even though there is a much higher more recent offer from someone else.

The current way it is setup doesn't really help active players who are constantly changing their buy offers in the trading post.

 

Edit:

This suggestion is how the OSRS G.E. works, also, OSRS deactivates offers for non-active accounts & you have to keep membership, but on alora it just encourages having 20 alts and filling the TP with 1m offers for anything that could accidentally be listed for a low price.

 

Here is the documentation for how it works for OSRS: https://oldschool.ru...hange#Operation

 

Adding the details from the update thread when Buy Offers were added:

Spoiler

Trading Post Changes:

• Trading Post Buy Offers:
  • Trading post buy offers have finally arrived!
  • Players will now see a “Sell Offer” and “Buy Offer” button in place of the original “List item” option.
    • The Sell offer functionality will work the same as it always has.
    • Clicking the Buy offer button will now open a chatbot item search to allow players to lookup all tradable items on Alora and select the item they wish to buy.
      • Once the item is selected, players can specify the quantity they wish to purchase and the price per item.
        • Players cannot set a quantity/price combination that would exceed max cash.
          • The price per item is the price that is paid after tax.
          • Once the offer is setup, it will try to fill the offer immediately with current trading post sell offers that are less than or equal to the price per item.
            • Any excess gp will be refunded when the player claims the items.
            • If the full buy offer cannot be filled immediately, it will remain active until it is fully filled.
        • A new button has also been added next to the “Claim coffer” button, used to claim the items that have been purchased from buy offers.
          • This can be done even when an offer is not fully filled, and will refund any extra unused gp as well as the items.
          • Players can also right-click specific buy offers to collect the purchased items.
  • Whenever a new sell offer is listed, the oldest buy offer that meets the price will be filled first.
  • Whenever a buy offer is listed, the buy offer will be filled from cheapest->most expensive sell offers that don’t exceed the price per item.

[Variant]

+1 support, revamp the tp! modern times require modern solutions (and give us our fucking platinum tokens in tp already pls)

[Crash Kid]

Support, Tp could def use some modernization and this seems like a logical first step!

[RG12]

Support, seems like a clear improvement

[zhk]

Bumping this topic 

[Mhk]

Bumping this topic again to hopefully get some traction on it.

[Duskmere]

Definitely support this. TP deserve a positive improvement and this could be the first step. 

[23]

I support this.  

[Eby]

I like it the way it is currently. Alora's Trading Post is a good differentiator from OSRS's GE and if you make it too similar to OSRS, then why don't we just go play there or elsewhere instead? This proposal benefits people who remove liquidity from the market and hurts players who add liquidity to the market.  Alora already has a thin orderbook and a weak economy. This would have the effect of just weakening it further by reducing the rewards for contributing to it. I would like more TP slots for every player though because lots of new items have been added to the game and that allows everyone to contribute more.

By design, RSPS's serve a more casual player-base due to the higher exp rates, lower quest burden, and lighter diaries. However you can expect the most active players to chat on these forum threads, skewing the voices heard.

No support. However I'd like to compliment MHK for being smart enough to learn this.

Has anyone played on an RSPS with no economy before? 

[Finn]

Support, It would be logical that the offer is sold to the highest amount and not the older offer

[Scorn]

I never knew thats how the TP worked, if so it definitely needs changing. I barely if ever use the TP but SUPPORT!

[doku]

SUPPPORT. TP is outdated and is in need of a rework!

[Ace]

Semi Support- I do agree TP needs to be revamped and changed but this is not the direction it should go. Lowest item listed should take priority, if Im buying a tbow 1b and find out there was an option for 100m imma be pissed. There are bigger problems in TP that needs attention more than this. 

[Mhk]

Semi Support- I do agree TP needs to be revamped and changed but this is not the direction it should go. Lowest item listed should take priority, if Im buying a tbow 1b and find out there was an option for 100m imma be pissed. There are bigger problems in TP that needs attention more than this. 

I think you're missing what I'm suggesting. 

If someone accidentally lists a twisted bow at say 100m, I'm suggesting that it should go to someone with the current highest buy offer, say 1b, 2b,... whatever that would be.

Your 1b buy offer wouldn't be fulfilled because someone put a 100m offer out X months ago when the feature was released, even if your buy order was the highest one.

 

Example from the OSRS wiki page linked above - 

• 'If a buy offer is made and lower sell offers already exist, then the trade succeeds between the lowest sell offer, and the buyer gets gold back.'
• 'If a sell offer is made and higher buy offers already exist, then the trade succeeds between the highest buy offer, and the seller gets more gold than their offer.'

The current way it is setup, is it will go to the oldest buy offer that meets the price which the seller lists.

Which means people have 20 alts with buy offers filled up at 1m for each high end item hoping someone will typo, and since it won't prioritize buy order price, just age of the buy order, it only benefits people with older accounts that could put in lots of buy offers at 1m when the feature came out.

 

The way it currently exists does not benefit new or active players, if you modify your buy order, it will change the priority it is fulfilled, and it obviously doesn't help the person that typos because it will insta sell their item for far cheaper than they wanted.

[Mhk]

Alora's Trading Post is a good differentiator from OSRS's GE and if you make it too similar to OSRS, then why don't we just go play there or elsewhere instead?

Telling someone that's been playing alora for almost 10 years to go play somewhere else is asinine.

This suggestion is meant to improve the trading post, if you can't produce valid points to dispute a suggestion other than 'go play somewhere else' maybe you should just keep that to yourself.

 

This proposal benefits people who remove liquidity from the market and hurts players who add liquidity to the market.

Explain to me exactly how prioritizing buy orders by price instead of age 'hurts players who add liquidity to the market'.

I'd argue it's the exact opposite and encourages players to submit buy orders that are closer to the actual price of items.

 

By design, RSPS's serve a more casual player-base due to the higher exp rates, lower quest burden, and lighter diaries. However you can expect the most active players to chat on these forum threads, skewing the voices heard.

What is your point in saying this?

Thank you for your AI explanation of people who post on RSPS forums.

 

No support. However I'd like to compliment MHK for being smart enough to learn this.

Smart enough to be able to read an update thread?

It's public game knowledge.

 

Has anyone played on an RSPS with no economy before?

What in the AI? I'd suggest proof reading next time before copy & pasting out of ChatGPT.

 

Your only argument in this whole blob of AI nonsense is that my suggestion reduces rewards for contributing to it, I'd suggest re-reading my post and replies since it seems like you do not understand what the suggestion is and how it would change the buy offer system.

The way it currently exists does not benefit new or active players, if you modify your buy order, it will change the priority it is fulfilled, and it obviously doesn't help the person that typos because it will insta sell their item for far cheaper than they wanted.

 

 

FYI, before you respond I'd like you to remember the new forum rule, see below - 

[ILikeHentai]

Makes sense. Had no idea this is how buying offers worked in TP

 

Support

[Dozer]

I agree.

I also hate that we cant buy / sell end game items like megas, torva sets, oath sets, inq sets, cosmetics because our tp is stuck in 2011 and cant go over max cash. 

[saeed]

support

it doesn't make sense that it was implented that way in the first place, needs to be reviewed