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Poll: Ancient Warrior's equipment (186 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you like to see Ancient Warriors' equipment introduced to Alora?

  1. Yes (130 votes [69.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.89%

  2. No (56 votes [30.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.11%

How do you think the Ancient Warriors' equipment would affect PvP?

  1. Positively (117 votes [62.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.90%

  2. Negatively (52 votes [27.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.96%

  3. Neither (17 votes [9.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.14%

How do you think the Ancient Warriors' equipment would affect PvM?

  1. Positively (81 votes [43.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.55%

  2. Negatively (46 votes [24.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.73%

  3. Neither (59 votes [31.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.72%

If these items would be added, should they be degradeable?

  1. Yes (108 votes [58.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.06%

  2. No (78 votes [41.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.94%

Where should these equipment sets be obtained?

  1. Revenant Cave (30 votes [16.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.13%

  2. % Chance on all wilderness NPC's (92 votes [49.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.46%

  3. % Chance on specific wilderness NPC's (30 votes [16.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.13%

  4. Non-wilderness location (22 votes [11.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.83%

  5. None of the above (12 votes [6.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.45%

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 01:55 PM #21

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support support support, but making it degradeable doesn't make sence. currently nothing degrades in alora I think we should keep it that way.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 01:55 PM #22

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the items shouldn't be avaible to get as loot from every monster. If the new items would be got as loot from some bosses it would make wilderness more active and maybe get new clans/pkers = players into the game.



Posted 19 September 2018 - 01:59 PM #23

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Make them WIlderness BOSS - drops only, and PvP use only.



Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:04 PM #24

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While I voted yes on having them implemented into Alora, there are a few concerns and suggestions i'd like to address;

 

'How do you think the equipment would affect pvp?'

 I believe the overall impact for the pvp scene would be greatly benefited by the addition of this equipment in a few ways.

-First reason being that it's a breath of fresh, exciting content that has high value and will be highly sought after, increasing wilderness activity.

-Second, while this equipment is incredibly powerful, I don't believe it completely devalues other options. With the various forms of pking there are different niche uses for certain situations and having more options is never a bad thing. 

 

'How do you think the equipment would affect PvM?'

This is where my main concern is.

Outside of the wilderness, I DO believe that this (armor specifically) equipment devalues other options if not implemented in a way to avoid doing so.

For instance, Vesta completely outclassing bandos in every category other then a slight prayer bonus(Which let's be honest, doesn't help much) would ultimately hurt the value of the bandos armor.

This isn't the only case, and there SHOULD be a cost to using these armors over the other armors. 

 

-Suggestions for having these implemented-

  • Make them degrade (Possibly to a 'broken' state, similar to barrows. This would help with choosing between paying the cost of using the powerful armor for casual PvM use like slayer, bossing, etc. or going with the "free" approach which wouldn't devalue previous armors.
  • Have them drop from all wilderness content, but at a fairly rare rate outside of the rev caves. More rev cave activity and more wilderness boss viability without causing these to flood the market too quickly.
  • Possibly have them have decreased (or none) stats outside of the wilderness.

All in all i think this would be a wonderful update if we take the right approach.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:04 PM #25

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I think it's a brilliant idea but not sure how it would be balanced in terms of drop rates:degrade time.
I think it's definitely something I would want to see, providing it's done right. Would rather there be a very low drop rate first - before tweaking. Please don't make the same error as was done with the revenant weapons.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:07 PM #26

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as the best pker i say this is good update


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:31 PM #27

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hmm not sure about this one 


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:57 PM #28

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I think they just wouldn't be good in General but lets say Useable only in clan wars, I feel that'd be fun. But for the general use? they're pretty much BiS, so it would make content irrelevant tbh


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 03:00 PM #29

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I do not support. I'm not a pvper however I did not enjoy the change they brought to osrs back when they first came out. The weapons and armour quickly took over the pvp scene and even on some level the pvm scene too. I feel like they are just too powerful for the current state of the game. Maybe the armour can be introduced given that we have justiciar and ancestral but not the weapons.

Posted 19 September 2018 - 03:17 PM #30

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Support. I think it would be great for the PvP community since they want more players out there, and on the flip side they would have more players to PK while they are in the wilderness trying I get the armor. I think on the PvM side of things, these sets could be best in slot for the respected combat skills, or on-par with the current best in slots. Even though these are not in OSRS except for DMM, Alora is a private server and should have some fun twists to make it unique. I’m all for updates to stay consistent with OSRS but this one sounds exceptionally fun. Also, non degradable for me because most things if not all weapons in this game are non-degradable so why shouldn’t these?

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 03:30 PM #31

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This would definitely increase the activity in the wilderness, and also add a new valuable entity to it. I like the idea and simply can't wait for it to be in-game!


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 03:35 PM #32

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Love the idea of introducing these. However, it should have nothing to do with revenants. They are crowded as it is. It would be such a missed opportunity to revitalise the wilderness as a whole, rather than just revitalising an already busy area of it.



Posted 19 September 2018 - 03:40 PM #33

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These are PvP armors. Alora is not a PvP server and never will be.

No support.

Posted 19 September 2018 - 03:43 PM #34

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@Salter when this update bro?

Posted 19 September 2018 - 06:39 PM #35

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Honestly i want to support this so badly but i cant. There are just better ways to make the wild more active on alora (advertisement, wilderness events, buff pkp/bloody keys. I dont wanna get off topic, but its a no from me even though i loved these item sets pre-eoc.

Might could look into only releasing statius/vesta long (im assuming these are the only items released on DMM currently?)

I got mixed feelings about it personally.

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 06:42 PM #36

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I could get behind degradable armours, the weapons really have zero place in Alora right now.
Having said this the issue with balancing the armours specifically for Aloras current state is a big one and would likely be followed by nerfs, buffs and complaints. I also feel there are other aspects of PVP and the wilderness in general that are screaming for attention and would have much more value in being changed.
 

No support.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 09:22 PM #37

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@MYRMIDON Instead of being open to the idea of PvP being worked on for a more complete server and attract a bigger playerbase you'd rather just Alora NEVER have an active wild?



Posted 20 September 2018 - 02:16 AM #38

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I like to have them added and degradeable just hate the fact that its gonna be another way to get pvmers into wildy.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 05:23 AM #39

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Not a great Idea, It would kill the eco and make alot of PvM drops worthless, also wildy activity will not change with these.



Posted 20 September 2018 - 06:28 AM #40

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These armors would far outpace any other armor and weaponry in the game.  As such it will be completely overpowered running into someone in the wilderness.

 

Additionally, especially if these armors were non-degradable, other armors will become irrelevant.

 

If these armors were introduced, they need to be very very very rare so as to keep the cost high and other armors relevant.


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