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Posted 29 August 2019 - 03:56 AM #1

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Sorry for not having this topic on a regular format however it would not work/fit properly.

 

I have 3 suggestions here each with a different goal. The first being to give new pkers a simple, easy way to learn and pick up pking, the second being to keep all the top tier pkers interested in playing this server instead of getting bored and leaving for other servers/osrs like many of them have done in the past and lastly to overall clean up the pkp shop and make it more useful (Not necessarily more profitable) for the pvp scene.

 

UPDATED LAST MAN STANDING

 

This would be the PERFECT way for any player new to the current pvp meta to learn to tribrid pk. For those who don't know what the updated version is, you spawn in with standard welfare NH gear and inventory. Whenever you get a kill, your supplies are reset (Eliminates just camping fights until they finish for easy kills) and you also get a key which can be used on a chest for 2 random gear upgrades (This gear varies from barrows items, imbued rings, PvP weapons, BiS PvP items etc.) 

In my opinion this is perfect for any new pker since they risk nothing and can learn for free even on their ironman/whatever gamemode they are accounts. 

The rewards could be the same as LMS On OSRS (Mostly cosmetics), See here: https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/last-man-standing?oldschool=1 (Ty @ Billesh for linking this.)

 

I understand of all these suggestions, this is what would take the largest amount of dev time however I think this is the perfect way to kickstart pking on alora, which is the only area the server lacks.

 

 

PK Elo System

 

This has worked/does work on many other servers. Whenever you get a kill you get (as an example) +15 to your elo rating, whenever you die you get say -10. This elo rating would reset say every 2 weeks and upon reset, the top 3 players get rewarded. (Please feel free to suggest rewards that would be fair.)

This should ONLY work below 5 wilderness or at edgepvp and on players risking over (an example) 750K. (Prevents farming skillers and ironmen/pvmers while increasing wilderness activity at edgeville, which is something many pkers look for when first joining the server.)

 

I believe this one would be the easiest to code/take up the least dev time and has no negative impact on the game in any way as long as the rewards are fair.

 

 

Updated PkP shop

 

Currently the pkp shop is 90% random items that are much easier obtained from pvm and 10% useless cosmetics. All pkers simply sell their emblems. My suggestion is a complete overhaul of this shop and making it items commonly used in PvP that don't come into the game as much as other items (From what I know, Please correct me if i am wrong.) 

 

ITEMS TO BE REMOVED:

 

AGS, TENT, TSOTD, ACB, CLAWS, ALL CERB BOOTS, SPIRIT SHIELD, CRYSTAL SHIELD, DFS, BANDOS, OCCULT, ALL ZENYTE JEWELLERY, ALL DARK BOW/WHIP PAINTS, BH HATS, ALL IMBUED RINGS (Keep the imbue ring option for 2.5k PKP.) RoW SCROLL, WILDY SWORD 4, SOUL BEARER.

 

 

ITEMS TO BE ADDED: 

 

PvP Boxes (HIGH AMOUNT OF PKP.), Morrigans Javelins, Morrigans thrownaxes, Opal dragon bolts, Dragonstone dragon bolts, Regular Dragonstone bolts, Heavy Ballista, Dragon javelins, 

 

 

This update does not necessarily make this shop more profitable, however it does make it very useful for people pking. This idea is that it will mean people that mainly get the emblems/pkp actually want to use them for items they will use/need, instead of having to spend (as an example) 100K Per dragon bolt (Yes that is what they are right now.) Which is just a stupid price. The list of items to be removed/added is obviously not finalized, if you have suggestions please let me know. 

This update again will take up very little dev time.

 

 

 

Please leave feedback/your thoughts below, tell me what you think is good and what you disagree with, this is meant to be for the WHOLE Community and balanced around everyone, not just for the top tier pvpers etc.

 

 

LARGE EDIT:

 

This part is purely for Omicrons life to be easier if he does decide to update the PKP Shop.

I worked out that each PKP is worth an average of 5300 GP, Or 795K Per Kill in the wilderness (Based on getting an average of 150 PKP per kill.)

These Prices are based off the top 10 Current items to buy from the PKP Shop in terms of  worth in the trading post. (If anyone is interested, add my discord Dan.2684 And i can explain how I worked this out in detail for each item.)

 

With this being said, I worked out that fair prices for ALL of the items I suggested are as follows:

 

ITEMS TO BE ADDED WITH PRICES:

 

PVP Box: 15K PKP (Based on the AVERAGE price of a pvp item currently being around 80m. Again I can show in detail how this was calculated if needed.)

Morr Javs/Axes(Sets of 25 for 500/1000 PKP)
ALL TYPES OF DRAGON BOLTS:(SETS OF 100 FOR 1500 PKP)(THIS IS ASSUMING THE BOLTS WILL DROP SIGNIFICANTLY IN PRICE WHEN THEY ARE ADDED TO THE SHOP, ALSO                                                                      CONSIDERING THE PRICE OF THEM RIGHT NOW IS COMPLETELY FUCKING INSANE)
REGULAR DRAGON BOLTS: (SETS OF 1000 FOR 1000 PKP)
BALLISTA: (4000 PKP)
DRAGON JAVS: (SETS OF 500 FOR 1000 PKP)
 
ITEMS TO BE KEPT IN BUT PRICES CHANGED:
 
Anglerfish: (Sets of 250 For 1250PKP)
Super Combat Potion(4): (Sets of 50 For 750PKP)
 
ITEMS TO BE KEPT AND PRICES NOT CHANGED:
 
Bounty Teleport Scroll
Fire cape
Dragon Defender
Rune Pouch
Fighter Torso
Saradomins Tear
Bloody Key
Granite Clamp
Royal Seed Pod
Ancient Mace
 
 
Please consider that ALL of these prices are actually WORSE average GP/Kill than the current PKP shop. This update is not to increase the amount pkers make, it is to make the pkp shop more useful for pkers in general.

Edited by H, 03 March 2024 - 08:00 PM.


Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:16 AM #2

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1 would be great motivation for me to pick up PKing again, and hugely agree to point 3, the PkP shop has been in desperate need of a rework for some time. Impartial on point 2.

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:19 AM #3

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I support all of these, The LMS would be good too, definitely would give it a try and slap everyone up

 

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:26 AM #4

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I would love the LMS to me revamped. It's kind of dead content (except for the events) any way.

Neutral on the PK Elo system. Would just give rewards to active pkers, probably won't revive edge pking. 

+1 on the updated PkP shop. Put items in there (not weapons) that pkers use daily. Also regular dragonstone bolts (e) please.

 

Nice suggestions  Solivagant !


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:29 AM #5

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I would love the LMS to me revamped. It's kind of dead content (except for the events) any way.

Neutral on the PK Elo system. Would just give rewards to active pkers, probably won't revive edge pking. 

+1 on the updated PkP shop. Put items in there (not weapons) that pkers use daily. Also regular dragonstone bolts (e) please.

 

Nice suggestions  Solivagant !

 

 

Edited to add regular dragonstone bolts. There is NO active pkers that pk at edge, that's the point. It does not reward people that PK Deep wildy (at the very least it forces them to edgeville/edgepvp if they want to gain elo, which means no pking ironmen/pvmers, only other pkers, also increased edge activity.)



Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:29 AM #6

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I very much support all of these, especially the LMS one.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:33 AM #7

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im not a huge pker but im always down for some new content, this definitely makes sense to me +1 :)



Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:34 AM #8

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I support all of them. Great idea, 100% agreed they need to rework the Pkshop.

Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:37 AM #9

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Support on these bronem we need pkermen

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 04:40 AM #10

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men big agree u kno aha +1


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 05:10 AM #11

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The elo system is pog af, support brothermens


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 06:06 AM #12

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big yes on all of these!



Posted 29 August 2019 - 07:26 AM #13

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i like these

 

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 07:39 AM #14

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any PvP update is fine with me, as for LMS rewards they just released the new LMS into 07 and have some nice rewards on there, Ill link so you can see what they are 

 

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 07:40 AM #15

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any PvP update is fine with me, as for LMS rewards they just released the new LMS into 07 and have some nice rewards on there, Ill link so you can see what they are 

 

https://secure.runes...ing?oldschool=1

Completely forgot about this, Added it to the thread. Tyvm



Posted 29 August 2019 - 08:39 AM #16

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I’d like to see the wild a little more active.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:48 AM #17

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I support all of these


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 11:19 AM #18

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Big fan of this post. I would like to see LMS to be more active as it's a very fun game mode to play. Most definetly would like to see this ELO system in place. I like how it can also be any type of pker that can get top spot in the standings and not simply NHers or bridders. This could for sure bring back any type of combat style. Per example: torso fighting, dhing and maybe even dh/karils fight. Like i said, if this ELO system happens, I know for a fact I will start Pking a lot more. As for the PKP shop upgrade, I also support this idea as I find myself with 30k PKP and feel as if most of the rewards aren't worth the PKP I have earned. Considering sometimes you die and lose more than what, per example, an ags or primordial boots are worth. If anything, supplies for pking make it much more worthy of buying as they can be expensive if you are buying them in large quantities. Very nice post Dan. Looking forward and hoping to seeing this happen.

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 02:21 PM #19

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@Solivagant horrible topic since im not credited into this.



Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:09 PM #20

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1 quick unrelated suggestion: please fix blood barrage healing lmao


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