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[11]

Hello, gamers today I'd like to bring back up the topic of TOB rates because this is such a common discussion, and I'd like to see other people's feedback on it on the forums rather than yell with me saying nerf TOB for the memes etc.

 

So to start this Topic off I'd like to show that these are the current TOB rates based off a PM I sent to @Omicron a few weeks ago. 

So as you can see right now the current rates are roughly 1/35 per individual, but this doesn't mention points and how they work or the donor rank.  So obviously not everyone will have the 1/35 drop rate, but this is the main point of the discussion is it too high or is it too low etc.  Here are some screenshots of TOB Logs from people who have done a good amount of TOB or have gone extremely dry. 

 @No  @R M  Myself  @ SuperiorIQ

 

 

@Swaggydabzzz @CronLad (he got helm @134kc) 

 

These are just some of the few collection logs that aren't the best.  Other players such as @F , @Snakelings , or @elite yin can also show how wonky TOB actually is.  So I'm stating this as my opinion and I'm not speaking for others, but TOB rates need to be fixed again because they've never been in the correct place.  1/35 for an individual isn't too high, but what if the chance was lowered to 1/20 or 1/25 and the chances of a purple got changed that only one individual can get the purple rather than the whole team.  Please reply with your thoughts on this and your collections logs because this is all RNG based etc so I know a lot of people have much better luck than others, but in most cases that is not it.

 

Thank you for reading.

[Classic]

IMO there needs to be a talk between OMI and those who tob on a regular basis to come up with a way to have tob drops actually happen rather than the 100+ dry streaks multiple of us have gone on. Me personally ive given up on tob because spending 20+ hours to get a 100m item is useless when you can go to COX where the drops are 1000% BROKEN and get 10 drops in the same amount of time making around 500m+. Either fix tob rates where they are more commonly dropped or buff cox where its like tob. 

 

also would like to add I personally do not believe Donor rank actually plays a part in the drops at tob because if it did you would see more drops for master+ donators rather than 90% of the scythes coming in the game from legendary or below with only 10-150kc.

 

we just need a fix or else no one will continue doing tob. the only time tob was actually "popping" with players was when another player had to pay out people money for getting drops. it shouldn't be that way, people should want to actually tob.

[deathw1sh]

Hey, Ra speaking here, I do have to admit that the tob drop rates are a pain in the ass and is essentially what made stop playing normie. Note that I am master donator, or was since i xfered rank to this account, and i managed to go 88 dry of a drop. Now, you look at other people like @Gigawatt , who is an extreme donator, this guy has legit received most of the drop table under the kc i have. Oh and not to mention the countless amoun of drop and raids boosters I've popped. You think you would get something after spending 300m on boosters and being master donor... well, think again.

[Eim ash]

Ok imma be honest, imo it's all in RNG I've seen ppl in osrs that are 50-70 dry (you don't know how pissed of they are since tob is x100 harder than alora) or even 500-800 dry for a scythe too, and some players in the past had good RNG on tob but when they went into another account their RNG is fucked (the guy knows him self), yes tob is dead + not many ppl get drops from it, and if u compare it to cox in alora, tob is not enjoyable if u don't get a drop, but if u do get a drop it's worth it (unless u get a dupe or you're super dry and ending up on a dupe)


my log on my eim (Master dono)^^

My log on my normie(super dono) got the pet before log tho, lost it anyways..

[Sassafras]

Not gonna lie, this is funny to read when so many players were up in arms about the update that made it so that only one member per team could get a purple.

I agree that drop rates could be improved a bit, but I think the situation isn't so bad that drastic action needs to be taken. I'd support a slight buff, if the difficulty of TOB remains stagnant.

[SuperiorIQ]

Although ToB is not meant to drop items as commonly like CoX does, it would be nice to have another buff because some people put hundreds of hours into ToB just to continuously go dry.  I personally have gone on several 80+ drystreaks and it's frustrating because this is essential endgame content that is needed to progress accounts.

[Foundational]

Counter Suggestion: Attribute all this BS to simple RNG and work on QOL for ToB and CoX so that CoX drops are a bit more rare but the content is actually enjoyable to do. 
 

Cba going dry as hell while playing sub-par end-game content.

[Blackpoiint]

Got the legguards at +- 40 kc. I've been dry since. The amount of purples i saw since then, is maybe 4.
https://gyazo.com/1e...c00c29b6db24e52

 

Something definitely has to happen here in my opinion. 

[Dab]

I honestly can't believe you think some of these are bad. I got my staff on KC 39.

 

https://gyazo.com/85...601e80bca4c1010

[Aritus]

Just to clarify, you guys don’t want to see my ToB drop log. It’s a disaster going this dry af as a Master donator. 160+ KC dry atm. :)

So support.

[Eim ash]

Just to clarify, you guys don’t want to see my ToB drop log. It’s a disaster going this dry af as a Master donator. 160+ KC dry atm. :)

So support.

deserved honestly

[Death Kid]

IMO, the drop rate should be increased by at least 30-40%. Having more loots won't necessarily crash prices. There are a lot more Twisted Bows in-game than Scythes, but the price for a Tbow is still higher. Also considering the majority of players cannot trade, I think it would be balanced. Restricted game modes wouldn't have to grind for countless hours, and TOB would become profitable to normal players. 

[Poh Tato]

1/35 is the funniest joke ive heard today... there is no way in hell it's 1/35 per person to get a purple..

 

should probably just remove point system and make deaths penalty chance of receiving a purple.

[Classic]

1/35 is the funniest joke ive heard today... there is no way in hell it's 1/35 per person to get a purple..

 

should probably just remove point system and make deaths penalty chance of receiving a purple.

 

Points don't matter in tob anyways.

[Moe]

There are people on OSRS who go 200+ dry as well. 1/7 1/9 1/35 etc does not guarantee anything. I believe the rate is fine and has been boosted enough. Also you can't use your current KC to base the rate, when it has KC from different drop rates imo. I played ToB for hundreds of hours when it first came out, and the rate is definitely better now (also as @Omicron said, it is still better than OSRS here + easier to raid).

[Hardcore]

Interesting subject, so many factors are involved. The simplest suggestion I have at the moment is make the drop rate 1/30 instead of 1/35 and see how it goes from there.

 

 

I'm definitely not a fan of 1/20 or 1/25 with high donors getting insane amount of rolls and rare loot% increases.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also it seems like something about the way purples are calculated is off because there are WAY too many people that go 100-150+ dry for a 1/35 chance at an item.

 

 

 

Here are mine currently, my droprate on my master dono acc is crazy good. Roughly 1/18-19, another reason I wouldnt want it 1/20 or 1/25 for reg donors.

 

 

 

 

[96]

Currently 1101 kc with 21 drops (lol) only 3 of those drops being weapons (1 sang 2 ghrazi) so the rest are just common uniques (7 hilts and 11 justiciar pieces)

 

I've gone

 

98 dry

121 dry

259-261 dry

112 dry (post last buff)

140 dry (post last buff)

 

Those are just notable dry streaks i remember, plenty of 50-70 dry streaks too. I went 260 roughly dry for a Justiciar piece so that was 100m made in about 73 hours of tob which felt like a huge waste for a useless item. I've known many players in my time on alora go 100+ dry of all different donor ranks. I also must say it's not very motivating to play the game when you don't see any progress in your account for 30+ hours of raiding (and wasting supplies) as the non unique items are completely useless to alora (such as swamp tar, battlestaves, runite ore, silver ore etc) the quantities are so low they don't offer large xp or use when you get them as drops and it just feels like you've gotten junk for spending 20 minutes in a raid as opposed to osrs where you're making gp off non uniques.

[PICKIN FLAX]

Lol. This discussion is funny. @IM Moe , 500+ kc since last TOB "adjustment". Please stop with the "fine drop rate" non sense. The drop rates are not fine. 

[Poh Tato]

Points don't matter in tob anyways.

how do you know that? almost of people say they do some say they don't.. personally i think it does matter seeing as loads of people go waaay over 35 kills dry for a purple chest..

[Roast Master]

Heres an idea, lets stop crying about drop rates when someones not lucky. Let's focus on fixing the actual raid. Once the raid is actually a challenge people can bitch about rates. But something you can do blindfolded on here shouldn't spill drops all day.