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Incredible guide, I can finally do zily now without getting one shot by a spiritual mage on the way.

Support also free @ conundrum he was ahead of his time. #guthanswarrior

Full support. As other replies have stated - it's very clear that there are multiple community members with personal vendettas not contributing to the conversation.

The reality is, if you increase the WELL ONLY value of items more of those items will be donated. We saw this with PvP armours, Elder mauls, noted SGS, etc. The idea that increasing the value of certain items would make no difference is laughably ignorant to the point I can't genuinely believe that any of these comments would think that is correct but instead are using it as a vessel to attack the OP on personal dramas.

The hilarious irony is many of these same people complain when someone has wealth but doesn't donate to well - then when that person gives a suggestion that would make them donate more they downvote out of spite.

Full support, another common sense suggestion that will overall improve the game

No support, corporeal beast is end game content with one of the most prestigious logs, and powerful drops in all of alora.

We should not be devaluing content, if you're having trouble killing the core you should just practice alone and get batter at it. Surely you can do it as most of you are some elite gamers!

After all if a squadron of 5 Guthan warriors was too OP surely removing the core is as well.

Nah at this point you're strawmanning I've literally explained it multiple times how lower hp (AKA SCALING CHANGES) lowers the barrier of completion for new, less skilled, or less equipped players making it easier to have more people learn as they require less players in their party to do attempts and potential completions allowing progress to be made towards closing the wide skill(and network) gap.

Your issue clearly is with me personally and I suggest you use the PM system to tell me about your issues with me. I won't read or reply but feel free to use it.

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@Mack Incorrect, you're making personal attacks I'm questioning the motivating factors behind someone's opinion. We're all self interested that's not a personal attack, it's just a logical analysis of the situation and the parties within.

Again, you're the one missing the point. Making the scaling more friendly at NM WILL increase overall completions statistically speaking it's impossible for a lower barrier to complete to result in less completions directly.

You previously opposed ToB drop rate changes, are largely responsible for the major overhaul of ToB and created a discord group to profit off the difficulty people have in completing ToB (for diaries), ToB achievements, etc.

You fail to offer any recourse for new and less experienced players other than an entry mode that has highly reduced if not entirely eliminated drop rates.

I question what is it about new players, or those less skilled or with less gear being able to duo ToB that hurts the game overall to such a degree that it outweighs the sad sad state that ToB is in now?

Scythes dropped in price by 2x and no change to ToB activity caused that, most items in TP don't sell anyways bc of a lack of demand (less new players, and people doing ToB where those items are most useful).

What harm does it cause players to have to redo speedruns

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@Mack Incorrect, you're making personal attacks I'm questioning the motivating factors behind someone's opinion. We're all self interested that's not a personal attack, it's just a logical analysis of the situation and the parties within.

Again, you're the one missing the point. Making the scaling more friendly at NM WILL increase overall completions statistically speaking it's impossible for a lower barrier to complete to result in less completions directly.

You previously opposed ToB drop rate changes, are largely responsible for the major overhaul of ToB and created a discord group to profit off the difficulty people have in completing ToB (for diaries), ToB achievements, etc.

You fail to offer any recourse for new and less experienced players other than an entry mode that has highly reduced if not entirely eliminated drop rates.

I question what is it about new players, or those less skilled or with less gear being able to duo ToB that hurts the game overall to such a degree that it outweighs the sad sad state that ToB is in now?

Scythes dropped in price by 2x and no change to ToB activity caused that, most items in TP don't sell anyways bc of a lack of demand (less new players, and people doing ToB where those items are most useful).

What harm does it cause other than make players to have to redo speedruns

Not surprising to get such a clueless take from this individual.

Nice personal attack, I wonder why you're not welcome to dissenting opinions from your own. The overwhelming majority of support on this thread illustrates a need for this.

Again "just get good" is not an argument when there's nobody running ToB 90% of the time. Why shouldnt high level players just enjoy hardmode and let newer, lesser skilled players have fun in NM with 1 or 2 of their friends instead of needing to find 3 or 4?

It's not just a lack of drive, it's demotivation from the fact that you have to keep 3+ people online for long periods of time often times with repeated wipes as you're learning. Not everyone is inside of a CC, not everyone has high level friends willing to take them.

I understand it can be hard for you and other high level players to emphasize with the perspective of a new player but if alora is meant to grow new players and those not in the high level community should have their opinions heard as they are here in this thread.

ToB is not the hardest content in the game, 500+ invo ToA, inferno, and soon™ DS2 awakened variants are.

Gnomonkeys is also my favorite streamer so at least we have that in common

10000% support on this. ToB has been dead content for a long time and the idea that players should just "get better" isn't really helpful when the opportunity for learning isn't the same as it was in the past. Nowadays if someone wants to learn there is nearly 0 chance of finding a team even at peak times, on bonuses the players who do ToB are less likely to take learners as well.


I think lowering not necessarily the raid difficulty overall but scaling - would help achieve this. (I would also support making the raid easier though, that's a different topic). This coming from a Comp'd GIM whos only remaining (reasonable) end game grind is ToB.

I'd also like to take a second to acknowledge that there seems to be an organized effort to vote down this suggestion even though the majority of the community seems to support it.

Some of those who do in fact own/are a part of an organized group that SELLS access to both ToB runs, achievements, AND learning. Wouldn't they have a vested interest in this not passing as they operate an in-game business that benefits from restricted access to ToB?

Nice to see some key bug fixes that were LONG awaited and muspah finally added. Hope to see this update momentum continue!

Full Support.

HCIM/HCGIM have a rough time on this game with frequent alleged DDOS attacks, and overall frequency of game instability and bugs compared to OSRS. Things like this that don't hurt the game integrity should be implemented.

To anyone commenting similar (but perhaps not identical) plugins exist on OSRS like this one https://runelite.net...party-heartbeat. Party Heartbeat goes a step further and even reports this info to your HCGIM team so teammates can save you if needed.

Regardless what's being asked is a simple timer and overlay, both of which exist in other plugins and the code would be quick and easy to repurpose for this use.

Support! I personally can't wait to get blood Torva in Alora in 2027

Support! I don't think it should be as common as dagon'hai though. A drop rate buff is definately needed but it should still have some prestige to it.

Also sit @Sagacious

Respect for writing all this but idk why you did. This has been brought up numerous times with Alora staff taking the inevitable position that the staff team as a whole is immune from biases and internally prevents unilateral biased decisions. 

 

These threads also devolve almost immediately into bait, flame, banter, clan polarization and never an actual engaging discussion with the potential for tangible results (as seen above lol)

 

It's clear that although these sentiments may be shared by many, that they're irrelevant opinions to the Alora staff. 

 

TL;DR 

Alora is going to be the way it always is, you can either adapt and find a way to enjoy around this. Or if you really care about this the most powerful thing you can do is to simply, not play. 

Format and text looks familiar, good banter folks glad to see you back in the game. Keep the same energy 24/7