Paine

Thank you for submitting your staff application, Banks! Here at Alora, we take pride in having our staff members provide swift and excellent support to all members of our wonderful community. After reviewing your staff application, we regret to inform you that your application has been denied. This, however, does not decrease your chances in any way and we encourage you to re-apply in 7 days. We want to thank you for your patience and time during these tough times!

We know that there's no way for you to know that we're working on all of this, which leads me to my next point: communication. With that being said, hopefully you can also sympathize with us and understand that sometimes things happen in our lives that we cannot control.

So, something that could be done to easily avoid this "lack of communication" here ..is to have someone make up "news papers" or teasers of things to come - while it's not a full form of communication, players will at least know what to expect - I'm aware that estimated time frame for these things are quite hard to keep to but this at least gives players some idea of what's going on rather than not knowing anything. I believe you did this a bit with the introduction of runelite client. With this you can see how the players feel about the updates to come and you can learn what to prioritize over what and so on.. 

Continuing on with the "lack of communication" bit, one thing I've noticed when coming to this server, maybe it's just me.. but I find it oddly frustrating not knowing what the hell is going on with the staff team. I see random promotions, random demotions and people randomly quitting and all without any announcement and or explanation as to why - sure those members that resign or get demoted aren't required and have no obligation to say anything as to why and or what happened but I definitely feel the community should be and needs to be updated on when these things happen instead of randomly seeing someone that was a staff member no longer being a staff member and it not being addressed to the community until someone decides to finally make a staff update.. a tip for the future, if you do monthly updates on this is to add additional change posts to that main post if there so happens to be changes in the staffing team within the month. I apologize if this is something that already happens in the discord, but, not everyone uses the discord like that. Forums are just as vital in a concurrent player base as discord is..

Communication has been an issue for awhile now, as Chad and I scramble to rush updates out (as a 2-person development team) we do sometimes lose sight of the big picture and neglect the communication aspect. It isn't something we intend to do, it simply makes more sense to us to put our time and energy into developing these updates to have a healthy, constant flow of new content and bug fixes, as well as responding to all the PMs that we receive daily and keeping in touch with the higher up staff team to make sure that things are running smoothly.

I had a good bit of experience in this myself, not in development, but managing a server and the staffing team/community and I can tell you that it's really important to keep people up to date with what's going on regardless, otherwise people will start to believe that you're in it for the money and or starting to abandon the server - which.. is what you have with this post. The only visible thing that's been shown in any sort of update progression is a new donator rank, you probably should of waited to roll it out and or hint it at all until the bigger update/s happen and or after them even.. 

You have a community manager, event/advert manager and 4 or so other admins that can fulfil the holes creating problems in your communication - use them.. if they can't do it, find someone that can.. simple as that.

This is one of the things that I will never understand the logic behind... Let's look at the most recent, and probably best example of this. The Chambers of Xeric rework is probably one of the best content updates Alora has seen in a long time; not only is it a good advertisement point, but it is also the cause of many old players returning. While I don’t agree with people saying “cOx iS iMpoSsible” I must admit I don’t see any logic behind delaying crucial bug-fixes, like the scaling of the top floor or the chests randomly disappearing for an entire month.    Another good example of this would be a very long time ago, when the skilling interfaces were updated to match OSRS. This update brought a crafting bug, that made the skill impossible to level early on, pretty much rendering the skill unusable for an entire week. Whether the reason is that a server restart would “annoy” players, or rather it was better to simply delay it a week so that the update would look bigger and better. It makes absolutely no logical sense. 

It's pretty obvious that these delays are there so that there's more content to be added to a single update, this is how most things go in terms of development of a game - in this case an rsps. Some games have regular downtime for maintenance weekly, but unfortunately that isn't an rsps works. I do believe that critical bug fixes shouldn't be held back in any regard and should be pushed out ASAP but the problem here is that they probably backup all the files having it sitting ready to be updated so attempting to try to update the server would implement everything they've been working on which would bring a plethora of new exciting bugs for everyone to deal with as they're not finished yet.. it's not exactly the smartest way of handling the files for the updates, I could be wrong.. but I'd assume it'd have to be the case or something similar otherwise there shouldn't be any problem with pushing out the critical bug fixes and the problem with it is, if they've done this with all the files it can take a long time to transfer.. which I can't really blame them for trying to avoid but maybe in the future better management of the files and so on can be considered.

I guess I'm fairly newer here.. so I don't really know the owner or the staffing team to any regard very well - so I don't know for sure if this is a continuing problem for a long time. I'd assume that it isn't that bad if the server has managed to stay up for 4 years with a decent playerbase but it's good someone has voiced their opinion/s for the community but in the future I don't think anyone should be afraid to voice their opinions on things so long as they're not just toxic gibberish because something bothers you a little bit and you for some reason can't seem to get over it and it's not really that big of a deal such as the below example 

I’ve contacted you a month or two ago regarding the Scythe of vitur’s wrong angle.

this is such an irrelevant thing to be bothering about and has absolutely no impact on the players gameplay and 90% of people probably didn't even know. Anyway.. voicing opinions is how you get things to change, staying quiet then there's no feedback etc to refer to when continuing on with updates and so on.. but being annoying and toxic about it you may as well just get booted into orbit.

Aside from that, the Eternal rank is simply a prestige rank -- yes, there are a few new perks (such as being able to transfer your rank more regularly) but at the end of the day it isn't anything that threatens the integrity of the game, and ultimately the addition of this rank will do more good than bad as it will allow us to keep providing the best support and content that we possibly can.

Most people won't even achieve this rank, so it's weird that they're even complaining about it. I think there should of definitely been a post made about it as soon as it was visible to the public or as said previously not made visible to the public until update/s roll out as an addition to the update posts explaining the rank in more detail and why it's been implemented to avoid such a harsh backlash.

Nice post, relax a little bit Alorians 

11/10 Post & took a lot of what I've been wanting to say but am honestly afraid to because I know my ranks will fly if I do so. 

With the 'troubles' coming to Alora soon, delaying updates & releasing a donator rank, which will fuck custom prices much more, seems to be a few steps in the wrong direction. 

Loc dev blog updates? 

It's a damn shame that posts like these won't change a thing, only $ talks on Alora. 

Congratulations to everyone!

Salty Ex Admin (SoonTM)

Hello everyone,

Today's Development Blog will allow us to give the community some insight on our next update, the long awaited Chambers of Xeric rework. We've been working on this update for the last couple of months as a side project, and we've now reached the point where we're close enough to release to give a sneak peak and tell you about what will change for those of you who raid often. We're thrilled to be able to release this for all of you to enjoy very shortly, and we hope you're just as thrilled as we are :)

Here is an overview of the upcoming changes:

• Layout randomization:
  • Those of you who have raided on Alora know that there has only been one layout/map for the past few years, which gets repetitive very quickly. When we initially release CoX, we were the first RSPS to do so and releasing one layout allowed us to get the update out more quickly. Nearly three years later, and after many suggestions, we've decided to dive back into the code for this raid and rewrite it to support randomization of the layout.
    • Following this update, every single raid will have a unique pattern.
      • There are millions of possible layouts, so you're sure to be kept on your toes when raiding.
• New chambers:
  • A few of the chambers in the Chambers of Xeric were entirely missing, so we've made sure to add these rooms into the reworked version of CoX. The following chambers have been re-added:
    • Vespula chamber:
      • In the chamber will be Vespula herself (a parasitic wasp), four lux grubs and an abyssal portal. The portal must be destroyed to dispel Vespula and her offspring.
    • Guardian chamber:
      • Two Guardian statues are guarding a passageway deeper into the chambers. The statues must be destroyed, as they will shove players away from the passageway if they try to get past them. They can only be harmed through pickaxes, best set to the Smash attack style; all other sources of damage will not count.
    • Jewelled crab chamber:
      • This puzzle room will require you to use your wits to turn all of the colored crystals in the chamber white, by using the jewelled crabs to reflect the orbs that the sculpture in the room continuously emits. This will take some technique to figure out, but it will give a nice non-combat aspect to the raid.
    • Resource chambers:
      • A few resource chambers have been re-added, which will allow you to farm/hunt/fish more efficiently within the raid.
        • You'll now be able to create your own potions by picking Gourd vials, farming the necessary herbs and mixing them yourself in a resource room.
• RuneLite CoX plugin:
  • The RuneLite plugin for the Chambers of Xeric will now work perfectly, allowing you to see the layout of the raid before you enter. This will allow you to decide whether you'd like to leave and attempt to obtain another layout before entering.
  • The plugin will also track how long you've been in this raid, which will come in handy for those of you who strive to beat the raids time records.

There are also many miscellaneous changes on top of this overview, but these are the most important changes, particularly the layout randomization which required a near-full rewrite of the raids code. While we don't have an exact ETA as we are still testing and ensuring that this content meets your expectations before releasing, we will say that it is our primary focus at the moment and will be the very next update that Alora receives.

We hope you enjoyed reading this development blog! Let us know what your thoughts are on this update :)

Regards,

Omicron & Chad

Simply Zalcano

 
 
TL;DR:
 
Requirements:
Any pickaxe  
Level 70 Mining
Level 70 Smithing
 
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1: Mine Tephra from Rock formations
               
 

 
 
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2: Smelt Tephra into Refined tephra at the furnace
                                       
 

 
 
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3: Imbue the Refined tephra at the altar
                               
 

 
 
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4: Toss the Imbued tephra at Zalcano
                           
 

 
 
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5. Mine Zalcano as she falls to the ground
 

 
 

Overview

With this knowledge you're ready to face Zalcano!

... Or you can keep reading for an in-depth guide

Requirements

Click the spoilers for more information

Spoiler

 Any pickaxe  

 Level 70 Mining
 Level 70 Smithing

 
Reccomendations
  - not required -
 
 Level 70+ Hitpoints 
High hitpoints allows you to take more damage
 
 Level 70+ Agility
High agility increases your run energy restoration
 
 Level 49+ Prayer
High prayer level for more prayer points and level 49 for Redemption  and Rapid heal 

If you have preserve  unlocked, combine this with the dragon pickaxe special attack to extend the duration
 
Level 70+ Runecrafing
Higher runecrafting level equals more damage from Imbued tephra 
 
 

Equipment

Fighting Zalcano

Zalcano fights back

Zalcano is a team boss

Loot

 
 Thank you very much for reading

See you at ;;Zalcano
 
 

How do you go from getting banned to getting a higher-up position in the span of 4 months?

Congrats to the promotions. Give em' hell @Open Casket

Ok hello, I have been summoned to this shitshow of a thread and I will respond however, before I get into it, I won't be posting anymore on this thread & will gladly continue any discussions on discord, either in private or a group, your choice. Everything I put here is my own personal opinion, I've not discussed this with anybody before posting. 

Before getting into specific points, I want to talk about the discord itself, which has apparently become the point of contention for the majority & more specifically, what a player will see. 

Upon entering the discord, this is all you can see:

In the #get-role channel, you may pick the servers/games you play & want to have access to, these are our offerings (other servers are crossed out):

(Alora is the last option cba taking another picture)

Now, let's continue on the path of an Alora player, who will then react to the Alora image at the bottom to be given the correct role. This role will allow the person to see our general (which all have access to once they react to something) & alora sections, which look like this:

Now I know what some of you are thinking in regards to this general section, so let me go into more depth. The #general chat is largely filled with people joining the server and small-talk, scrolling up for the past few days I don't see a single other server being mentioned. #Media is a mix of things such as dog pics & a bunch of other random shit. #Irl is self explanatory, as other channels such as memes, music, off topic, nsfw & anime. Somebody brought up giveaways earlier, so let's take a look shall we:

The last RSPS related giveaway in this channel was on the 27th of March, and it was an Alora one. 

The Alora section doesn't require any explanations, it's purely for Alora. 

The ONLY point I'm willing to concede here is the newspaper, which includes SMALL sections for each game, looking like this (leaving out other RSPS bc censorship)

If you really think we're able to persuade / advertise from 3-4 lines of copy & pasted text, then you need to have a strong hard think about your own cognitive functions. 

This sums up our discord experience for those who only react to Alora. There are no @ everyone, @ here pings talking about other servers, those are done in their own sections, which a person is unable to see unless they have reacted specifically to get those perms, or are Admins. It truly disappoints me, that this can be classified as advertising, many of the accusers & people making the decisions are in our discord & others may join at any time to have a look for themselves. 

To look again to the original post, there's a very clear difference in what we expose a person to, in comparison to the example given here:

'ICE used to say in the discord players had to abide with Alora rules which is no server advertising. But now that doesn’t matter because ice isn’t Alora only, which is fine. But if players can’t follow our rules, we can’t allow clans that allow other server advertising/association publicly.' - Moe . Ok, let's discuss this point, first about the rules, which as you mentioned is fine. The real thorn in this statement, is advertising/association publicly, in what way are we 'allowing other server association/advertising'? A person has to give themselves the roles in discord, to see the sections that correspond to those games. They MAY hear about it in in another channel, but be realistic here, is that really so wrong, to DISCUSS a server in passing in a clan's discord? 

This rule & the reasoning behind it that I've been provided seems to imply that we continually say @Everyone hey check out X RSPS it's so much better than Alora!!!@!@!@! 

From this point the post is gonna get weird because I'll be damned if I fuck up this goliath of an essay because I try to quote something.

'Either way at the end of the day if you would rather pick another server over Alora because you enjoy it more than that's on you' - 11. The rest of your post somewhat  made sense but this line does not, what's on us? Is this rule on us because some of our clan don't play this game anymore? Some clarification on what you meant would be appreciated (@ discord). 

@gim deathkid - are you a robot? Your response managed to convey not a single meaningful message. 

@hc ashley , a few points here. 

1. The rule states " Players are only allowed to publicly advertise clans on the world yell & forums, if the clan is directly related to Alora only."

2. ​I can understand the frustration and why some individuals are upset about this rule, but its to create a healthy in-Alora based clan competition.

A- Ok but, why? Why does competition have to entail requirements of being Alora & Alora-only? The premise of the idea may work if the server was larger & had more variety in clan options but in practically, it does not. 

3. Im sorry but "using your position of power to eliminate people from the game" are you serious? for as long as ive been playing i see no reason for any of the staff members to take such low and pitiful attempt of wanting to rid of a player base or use their powers in means to "reduce competition" between clans.

@Code 002 , AKA stick-insect

1. First off I would like to say the difference between an "Open" cc and a "private" cc. An open cc ANYONE can join at ANY given time. Thus allowing a more ease of access to "other" rsps (we all know games such as COD and WOW are not a part of this *potential* new rule). Do not twist my wording to your pleasure and agenda.

A - So the only actual difference here is if said CC offers other games in an outside-medium such as discord? Would like some clarification (discord). 

2. Secondly, think of this from a "never played alora this is my first time" movie.

They notice 300 players in the clan. ( )

Once in a blue moon, when a higher-up /non-alora player hops in, they may say they play another server, without mentioning it. If, somehow, a name is mentioned, the player in question will immediately be warned. As an ex-staff member, that has never been a problem & never should. 

3. Now onto the topic of Youtubers. If my memory serves me right YouTubers are essentially paid advertisers to an extent for the longevity of the server. (I could be wrong but doubt it) This is where the difference lies within. Where as an OPEN clan has near free reign of what's going on inside of both their Discord and Ingame CC.... ( and the rest of this paragraph). 

A - I may not remember this as well as you, code, but from I know, we only took measures to delete discord links etc in Alora discord? I don't particularly remember banning/muting players for advertising discords with other content in it (apart from a few cases of RWT encouragement, I think). 

4. Also in the case of Youtubers. If they advertise non alora related videos through an Alora platform ie. Discord, forums. They have had their rights as a Youtuber REVOKED and banned from said platform. Always have always will. 

A - Back to my aforementioned point, is what we do, from what I have shown of our discord & what you are able to find yourself, really count as advertisement? 

5. Also coming back to the "using position of power to essentially get rid of the competition " is about as tinfoil as I could possibly imagine. Like how in any way shape or form does that make sense. Besides attempting to stir the pot more than it is already. THAT seems so close minded and biased I really shouldn't even be replying to tbh but I'm irked to no end.

• Our discord does not promote other servers, it is out of choice, with very few exceptions, that you are exposed to such things. (A few lines once a month, in a discord, REALLY does not warrant it being classed as advertising).
• Our clan-chat does not promote other servers.
• Clear lack of communication between the parties.
• Admittedly, our rule section seems to have disappeared & been forgotten about. It will return very shortly & will include statements to make sure advertising/link sending is punished, as it ought to have been. 

LASTLY, DO NOT TAKE ACTION BEFORE COMMUNICATING, this is not an in-game punishment where a player is being banned for hacking etc, a simple line of text could & most probably would have caused this entire rule & thread to be nullified.

Thanks for reading this fucking mess, sorry for mistakes, I won't respond here anymore, pm me on discord @ Aka#1550 (I won't send links to other servers, I promise ). 

Hey Josh, since we are all having a nice debate I would like to chime in my thoughts to some replies as well.

 

"Nobody is twisting words. I suggest you re-read over the rule. The rule states and I quote "A clan that is associated with other Runescape Private Servers will be considered a private clan (may not advertise on Alora)."

By this wording, "Private clans" may not advertise on Alora.

So, I will repeat, Work on your wording to whoever decided that was typed properly if that wasn't the intention of the rule."

 

What we were aiming for with the wording is as follows, a public clan (clan that is for Alora only) may advertise on the yell and forums. A private clan (clan that is for all Servers) may not advertise on the yell and forums due to association with other private servers.

 

 

"Yes. I don't see the ICE discord advertising other servers via their CC or via the Alora discord/forums. Unless there's behind the scene screenshots proving of SPEFICIALLY this, This is irrelevant."

 

I have screenshots of people who were being sent links/messages to join other servers. Players have also left ICE due to trying to provide them with another server to play without seeking for it.

 

" I'll butt in for this one too. You can't police what someone does on discord. That's not in-game, the official discord, or forums. Asking someone to join them playing a different game is a very normal thing for friends to do."'

 

Actually you can provide rules on a Discord and monitor your discord. Prior to ICE being a "open, all platform gaming" discord, players had to abide with Alora rules. (which included advertising), and players would get punished if they tried such a thing.

 

Thank you for making a feedback and listening to both sides.

Hi Moe, Glad you could make it. As I mentioned, All thoughts, comments, or questions are welcome.

"What we were aiming for with the wording is as follows, a public clan (clan that is for Alora only) may advertise on the yell and forums. A private clan (clan that is for all Servers) may not advertise on the yell and forums due to association with other private servers."

- I'll say it again. Whoever worded that rule, needs to work on the wording. Public and private shouldn't be involved in the wording if what you're targetting is clans who are Alora specific vs clans who allow multiple sections to be in a discord.

"I have screenshots of people who were being sent links/messages to join other servers. Players have also left ICE due to trying to provide them with another server to play without seeking for it."

- I'll say it again. If people are contacting others via THEIR discord, It's an over-reach to try and police that. Those people are more than welcome to leave the discords they don't feel comfortable getting the messages from. But, an attempt to restrict what goes on in someone elses discord (Not the official alora one) is an over-reach of your powers. Asking people in the same discord as you to join you on a different game isn't the same as pming someone IN GAME ON ALORA "Hey come play X with me".

"Actually you can provide rules on a Discord and monitor your discord. Prior to ICE being a "open, all platform gaming" discord, players had to abide with Alora rules. (which included advertising), and players would get punished if they tried such a thing."

- Yep. Which even with someone reaching out to another player VIA A MUTUAL NON-ALORA OFFICIAL DISCORD doesn't break the rule. "• b. Discussing other active servers in-game and/or on the forums is strictly forbidden."

So, What point were you trying to make here?

Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to all the responses from everybody.

It's nice to see some old faces I haven't seen in over a year. Hope all has been well for everyone in this time.

I would like to express my feelings and thoughts that made me come to this decision.

First off I would like to say the difference between an "Open" cc and a "private" cc. An open cc ANYONE can join at ANY given time. Thus allowing a more ease of access to "other" rsps (we all know games such as COD and WOW are not a part of this *potential* new rule). Do not twist my wording to your pleasure and agenda.


Secondly, think of this from a "never played alora this is my first time" movie.
They would see the advertising of a friendly helpful OPEN cc.

They join this help clan.

They notice 300 players in the clan. ( )

Yet only a handful actually still play the game it is based off of. In my eyes I joined the clan to be a part of the community along with the game itself. If I saw talks/giveaways/events for other servers while trying to seek HELP for alora. Why wouldn't i just not play alora and go play with the rest of the community I've joined.

^^This is just my opinion since at one point I was a cute noob aswell.


Now onto the topic of Youtubers. If my memory serves me right YouTubers are essentially paid advertisers to an extent for the longevity of the server. (I could be wrong but doubt it) This is where the difference lies within. Where as an OPEN clan has near free reign of what's going on inside of both their Discord and Ingame CC.
@Hellish, @KP if my memory also serves me right again. Haven't WE punished people in the past for scenarios resembling this situation? And sorry to call you two out like this but you're the 2 I respect the most. Why all of a sudden that neither of the 2 of you are with us, that this is now ONLY pointed at the clan? Again not to just point at you two in particular but rather discuss about it than just say "stfu toxic ex staff" were all grown here.

Also in the case of Youtubers. If they advertise non alora related videos through an Alora platform ie. Discord, forums. They have had their rights as a Youtuber REVOKED and banned from said platform. Always have always will.

And @Not Tauri (not pointing you out you were just the one to make me think this)
I understand your viewpoint on "competition" between clans (kinda how clans interact with each other) but when new people are torn between a competition between SERVERS when they JOINED VIA ALORA. Is scummy and realistically players are being (scalped) from one platform to being ushered onto another platform. Also having members of ICE contact other clan members AND <Keyword!!! Non affiliated players of the alora community to "come play Ikov with us we dont really play alora that much anymore"
Is indirect advertising at its finest. (Word of mouth) if you dont know it Google it

Also coming back to the "using position of power to essentially get rid of the competition " is about as tinfoil as I could possibly imagine. Like how in any way shape or form does that make sense. Besides attempting to stir the pot more than it is already. THAT seems so close minded and biased I really shouldn't even be replying to tbh but I'm irked to no end.

Now again, just my opinion on the matter. As it is intended to preserve the integrity of ALORA and nothing else. Any questions or concerns about MY opinion feel free to message me (currently at work so please be patient).

And lastly I'll reiterate what I said at first.

It's nice to see alot of old faces I haven't seen ingame in over a year start popping back up again.
Welcome back we've missed you.

-Alex

Unfortunately, I guess I will reply to this one too.

"It's nice to see some old faces I haven't seen in over a year. Hope all has been well for everyone in this time."

- People are allowed to be passionate about something they haven't touched in "x" amount of time. If they take a break or even quit, That doesn't mean that they have to care less about the game. I haven't actively played in months and I'm still willing to bet I have more passion about the integrity of Alora than most. The people I've met, the friendships I've built, and the amount of fun I had on here is unmatched. I will care about what happens for quite some time as I am thankful for what Alora did for me and the people on or involved with it. This won't be the last feedback thread I post if there's more stuff I disagree with. That's what a feedback section is for. Attempting to demean their comments by instantly starting out with "Haha you guys haven't even been around shut up" is weak and I expected more.

"First off I would like to say the difference between an "Open" cc and a "private" cc. An open cc ANYONE can join at ANY given time. Thus allowing a more ease of access to "other" rsps (we all know games such as COD and WOW are not a part of this *potential* new rule). Do not twist my wording to your pleasure and agenda."

- Nobody is twisting words. I suggest you re-read over the rule. The rule states and I quote "A clan that is associated with other Runescape Private Servers will be considered a private clan (may not advertise on Alora)."

By this wording, "Private clans" may not advertise on Alora.

So, I will repeat, Work on your wording to whoever decided that was typed properly if that wasn't the intention of the rule.

- The storyline of "Imagine cute noob x, y, and z'd, 300 people, persuaded into x,y, and z" is irrelevant as you're speaking off 'what-if's' and made up scenarios. I don't see any rules being put into place on made up scenario that Jay eats too many cheese balls and isn't able to continue his daily life.

"Now onto the topic of Youtubers. If my memory serves me right YouTubers are essentially paid advertisers to an extent for the longevity of the server. (I could be wrong but doubt it) This is where the difference lies within. Where as an OPEN clan has near free reign of what's going on inside of both their Discord and Ingame CC."

- ? what.

- Every youtubers discord is OPEN, their cc's in game are OPEN, and most of which advertise rwt, other servers, and whatever else someone will pay them to advertise. You're writing off youtubers as okay when they are by far worse at enticing people to join other servers than what's going on inside the ice discord. (This is opinionated, obviously)

You then take aim at Hellish and KP with "Why all of a sudden that neither of the 2 of you are with us, that this is now ONLY pointed at the clan?"

- These two haven't been staff for a minute, I'm not sure of your definition of "all of a sudden". Neither did either of these people comment on this post, So I'm not sure why they are involved. I made this thread.

"Also in the case of Youtubers. If they advertise non alora related videos through an Alora platform ie. Discord, forums. They have had their rights as a Youtuber REVOKED and banned from said platform. Always have always will."

- Yes. I don't see the ICE discord advertising other servers via their CC or via the Alora discord/forums. Unless there's behind the scene screenshots proving of SPEFICIALLY this, This is irrelevant.

"Also having members of ICE contact other clan members AND <Keyword!!! Non affiliated players of the alora community to "come play SERVER with us we dont really play alora that much anymore"
Is indirect advertising at its finest."

- I'll butt in for this one too. You can't police what someone does on discord. That's not in-game, the official discord, or forums. Asking someone to join them playing a different game is a very normal thing for friends to do.

"Also coming back to the "using position of power to essentially get rid of the competition " is about as tinfoil as I could possibly imagine. Like how in any way shape or form does that make sense. Besides attempting to stir the pot more than it is already. THAT seems so close minded and biased I really shouldn't even be replying to tbh but I'm irked to no end."

- Retweet. Already replied to him.

"And lastly I'll reiterate what I said at first.

It's nice to see alot of old faces I haven't seen ingame in over a year start popping back up again.
Welcome back we've missed you."

- I'll reiterate what I said at first. Attempting to de-value opinions isn't how things get solved. Hope the discussions in staff chats are actually considering all sides to this rule instead of writing off opinions.

Well even while voting you see advertisememts of different servers so lets stop voting too.

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