God

Sit @Lowkey jajajajajaja

 

Gz my son @Moe

I'm just here so I won't get fined.

Actually enjoyed listening to Josh talk for half an hour.

Thanks for making these and can't wait to see what else is coming out in the future!

If this is sarcasm, I WILL leak all the screenies of you BEGGING me to vc.

If it’s not…. Hey thanks man.

no way u just spent 1h writing this. 

 

pk clan reduced to doing cringe shit on a pvm server #peeks

Ain't this you?

 

Apps aren't open sorry.

Gz on promotions.

 

Kaamea still noob.

Gz @Adex

Rip the goat server support.

 

Alexa... play some sad background music

 

 

 

Thanks alexa

Hey Josh, since we are all having a nice debate I would like to chime in my thoughts to some replies as well.

 

"Nobody is twisting words. I suggest you re-read over the rule. The rule states and I quote "A clan that is associated with other Runescape Private Servers will be considered a private clan (may not advertise on Alora)."

By this wording, "Private clans" may not advertise on Alora.

So, I will repeat, Work on your wording to whoever decided that was typed properly if that wasn't the intention of the rule."

 

What we were aiming for with the wording is as follows, a public clan (clan that is for Alora only) may advertise on the yell and forums. A private clan (clan that is for all Servers) may not advertise on the yell and forums due to association with other private servers.

 

 

"Yes. I don't see the ICE discord advertising other servers via their CC or via the Alora discord/forums. Unless there's behind the scene screenshots proving of SPEFICIALLY this, This is irrelevant."

 

I have screenshots of people who were being sent links/messages to join other servers. Players have also left ICE due to trying to provide them with another server to play without seeking for it.

 

" I'll butt in for this one too. You can't police what someone does on discord. That's not in-game, the official discord, or forums. Asking someone to join them playing a different game is a very normal thing for friends to do."'

 

Actually you can provide rules on a Discord and monitor your discord. Prior to ICE being a "open, all platform gaming" discord, players had to abide with Alora rules. (which included advertising), and players would get punished if they tried such a thing.

 

Thank you for making a feedback and listening to both sides.

Hi Moe, Glad you could make it. As I mentioned, All thoughts, comments, or questions are welcome.

 

 

"What we were aiming for with the wording is as follows, a public clan (clan that is for Alora only) may advertise on the yell and forums. A private clan (clan that is for all Servers) may not advertise on the yell and forums due to association with other private servers."

- I'll say it again. Whoever worded that rule, needs to work on the wording. Public and private shouldn't be involved in the wording if what you're targetting is clans who are Alora specific vs clans who allow multiple sections to be in a discord.

 

 

"I have screenshots of people who were being sent links/messages to join other servers. Players have also left ICE due to trying to provide them with another server to play without seeking for it."

- I'll say it again. If people are contacting others via THEIR discord, It's an over-reach to try and police that. Those people are more than welcome to leave the discords they don't feel comfortable getting the messages from. But, an attempt to restrict what goes on in someone elses discord (Not the official alora one) is an over-reach of your powers. Asking people in the same discord as you to join you on a different game isn't the same as pming someone IN GAME ON ALORA "Hey come play X with me".

 

 

"Actually you can provide rules on a Discord and monitor your discord. Prior to ICE being a "open, all platform gaming" discord, players had to abide with Alora rules. (which included advertising), and players would get punished if they tried such a thing."

- Yep. Which even with someone reaching out to another player VIA A MUTUAL NON-ALORA OFFICIAL DISCORD doesn't break the rule. "• b. Discussing other active servers in-game and/or on the forums is strictly forbidden."

So, What point were you trying to make here?

 

 

Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to all the responses from everybody.

It's nice to see some old faces I haven't seen in over a year. Hope all has been well for everyone in this time.

I would like to express my feelings and thoughts that made me come to this decision.

First off I would like to say the difference between an "Open" cc and a "private" cc. An open cc ANYONE can join at ANY given time. Thus allowing a more ease of access to "other" rsps (we all know games such as COD and WOW are not a part of this *potential* new rule). Do not twist my wording to your pleasure and agenda.


Secondly, think of this from a "never played alora this is my first time" movie.
They would see the advertising of a friendly helpful OPEN cc.

They join this help clan.

They notice 300 players in the clan. ( )

Yet only a handful actually still play the game it is based off of. In my eyes I joined the clan to be a part of the community along with the game itself. If I saw talks/giveaways/events for other servers while trying to seek HELP for alora. Why wouldn't i just not play alora and go play with the rest of the community I've joined.

^^This is just my opinion since at one point I was a cute noob aswell.


Now onto the topic of Youtubers. If my memory serves me right YouTubers are essentially paid advertisers to an extent for the longevity of the server. (I could be wrong but doubt it) This is where the difference lies within. Where as an OPEN clan has near free reign of what's going on inside of both their Discord and Ingame CC.
@Hellish, @KP if my memory also serves me right again. Haven't WE punished people in the past for scenarios resembling this situation? And sorry to call you two out like this but you're the 2 I respect the most. Why all of a sudden that neither of the 2 of you are with us, that this is now ONLY pointed at the clan? Again not to just point at you two in particular but rather discuss about it than just say "stfu toxic ex staff" were all grown here.

Also in the case of Youtubers. If they advertise non alora related videos through an Alora platform ie. Discord, forums. They have had their rights as a Youtuber REVOKED and banned from said platform. Always have always will.

And @Not Tauri (not pointing you out you were just the one to make me think this)
I understand your viewpoint on "competition" between clans (kinda how clans interact with each other) but when new people are torn between a competition between SERVERS when they JOINED VIA ALORA. Is scummy and realistically players are being (scalped) from one platform to being ushered onto another platform. Also having members of ICE contact other clan members AND <Keyword!!! Non affiliated players of the alora community to "come play Ikov with us we dont really play alora that much anymore"
Is indirect advertising at its finest. (Word of mouth) if you dont know it Google it

Also coming back to the "using position of power to essentially get rid of the competition " is about as tinfoil as I could possibly imagine. Like how in any way shape or form does that make sense. Besides attempting to stir the pot more than it is already. THAT seems so close minded and biased I really shouldn't even be replying to tbh but I'm irked to no end.

Now again, just my opinion on the matter. As it is intended to preserve the integrity of ALORA and nothing else. Any questions or concerns about MY opinion feel free to message me (currently at work so please be patient).

And lastly I'll reiterate what I said at first.

It's nice to see alot of old faces I haven't seen ingame in over a year start popping back up again.
Welcome back we've missed you.

-Alex

Unfortunately, I guess I will reply to this one too.

 

"It's nice to see some old faces I haven't seen in over a year. Hope all has been well for everyone in this time."

 

- People are allowed to be passionate about something they haven't touched in "x" amount of time. If they take a break or even quit, That doesn't mean that they have to care less about the game. I haven't actively played in months and I'm still willing to bet I have more passion about the integrity of Alora than most. The people I've met, the friendships I've built, and the amount of fun I had on here is unmatched. I will care about what happens for quite some time as I am thankful for what Alora did for me and the people on or involved with it. This won't be the last feedback thread I post if there's more stuff I disagree with. That's what a feedback section is for. Attempting to demean their comments by instantly starting out with "Haha you guys haven't even been around shut up" is weak and I expected more.

 

 

"First off I would like to say the difference between an "Open" cc and a "private" cc. An open cc ANYONE can join at ANY given time. Thus allowing a more ease of access to "other" rsps (we all know games such as COD and WOW are not a part of this *potential* new rule). Do not twist my wording to your pleasure and agenda."

 

- Nobody is twisting words. I suggest you re-read over the rule. The rule states and I quote "A clan that is associated with other Runescape Private Servers will be considered a private clan (may not advertise on Alora)."

By this wording, "Private clans" may not advertise on Alora.

So, I will repeat, Work on your wording to whoever decided that was typed properly if that wasn't the intention of the rule.

 

 

- The storyline of "Imagine cute noob x, y, and z'd, 300 people, persuaded into x,y, and z" is irrelevant as you're speaking off 'what-if's' and made up scenarios. I don't see any rules being put into place on made up scenario that Jay eats too many cheese balls and isn't able to continue his daily life.

 

 

"Now onto the topic of Youtubers. If my memory serves me right YouTubers are essentially paid advertisers to an extent for the longevity of the server. (I could be wrong but doubt it) This is where the difference lies within. Where as an OPEN clan has near free reign of what's going on inside of both their Discord and Ingame CC."

 

- ? what.

- Every youtubers discord is OPEN, their cc's in game are OPEN, and most of which advertise rwt, other servers, and whatever else someone will pay them to advertise. You're writing off youtubers as okay when they are by far worse at enticing people to join other servers than what's going on inside the ice discord. (This is opinionated, obviously)

 

 

You then take aim at Hellish and KP with "Why all of a sudden that neither of the 2 of you are with us, that this is now ONLY pointed at the clan?"

- These two haven't been staff for a minute, I'm not sure of your definition of "all of a sudden". Neither did either of these people comment on this post, So I'm not sure why they are involved. I made this thread.

 

 

"Also in the case of Youtubers. If they advertise non alora related videos through an Alora platform ie. Discord, forums. They have had their rights as a Youtuber REVOKED and banned from said platform. Always have always will."

- Yes. I don't see the ICE discord advertising other servers via their CC or via the Alora discord/forums. Unless there's behind the scene screenshots proving of SPEFICIALLY this, This is irrelevant.

 

 

"Also having members of ICE contact other clan members AND <Keyword!!! Non affiliated players of the alora community to "come play SERVER with us we dont really play alora that much anymore"
Is indirect advertising at its finest."

- I'll butt in for this one too. You can't police what someone does on discord. That's not in-game, the official discord, or forums. Asking someone to join them playing a different game is a very normal thing for friends to do.

 

 

"Also coming back to the "using position of power to essentially get rid of the competition " is about as tinfoil as I could possibly imagine. Like how in any way shape or form does that make sense. Besides attempting to stir the pot more than it is already. THAT seems so close minded and biased I really shouldn't even be replying to tbh but I'm irked to no end."

- Retweet. Already replied to him.

 

 

"And lastly I'll reiterate what I said at first.

It's nice to see alot of old faces I haven't seen ingame in over a year start popping back up again.
Welcome back we've missed you."

 

- I'll reiterate what I said at first. Attempting to de-value opinions isn't how things get solved. Hope the discussions in staff chats are actually considering all sides to this rule instead of writing off opinions.

I kinda want to express my feelings towards this topic, so I'm going to do it. Keep in mind, that this opinion and feedback is solely by me as a person, not by someone who belongs to any private or public clans.

 

I am extremely disappointed at the people who decided to apply the rule, because as @God stated in the sidenote, this rule was mainly targeted to one CC in Alora. If we count all the CC's in the game, how many do we have?

 

Competition is natural, but using your position of power to eliminate people from the game, who are trying to find more friends to play games with is not. I hope that this topic right here is going to have a wake-up call effect on you guys and instead of trying to target some people in the game, focus on the job you were supposed to do when applying for staff rank in the first place.

 

This isn't where I wanted nor will let this thread go. It's not staff bashing. I'm not accusing anybody of abusing power. I'm saying and giving reasons as to why the rule should be removed as it's extremely flawed.

Accusing someone of "Abusing their power to eliminate people from the game" is the same tinfoil bullshit that helped cause and fuels this stupid ass petty war between people on here. These may be your opinions, But I won't let my feedback thread turn into staff bashing when it wasn't intended to be that. Make your own thread if you wish to continue.

 

 

Please do not take anything i say here personal, and if you wish to response please think before you write. I have made all my comments on a unbiased platform of choice.

 

 

From my PERSONAL perspective i think I'm noticing a lot of misunderstanding to what the rule entails due to a lot of emotionally affected responses.

 

 

The rule states " Players are only allowed to publicly advertise clans on the world yell & forums, if the clan is directly related to Alora only."

• This is not meant to deteriorate advertising, but only stop advertising of those "clans" it self that also promote other servers as competition.

 

This is meant to create a in-Alora clan base that only promotes competition towards one another without exposing their player base to other servers through their discords/clan chat methods outside of Alora. Advertising a discord that promotes other servers just cause is a "clan" in alora also is a indirect way of saying/promoting the other servers and this is just a rule that helps prevent that in its some ways.

 

​I can understand the frustration and why some individuals are upset about this rule, but its to create a healthy in-Alora based clan competition.\

 

I have no response to the "video makers section" so that's open to discussion, but saying "So, I hope to see each of them punished accordingly." is a unjust response. 

 

 

 

Im sorry but "using your position of power to eliminate people from the game" are you serious? for as long as ive been playing i see no reason for any of the staff members to take such low and pitiful attempt of wanting to rid of a player base or use their powers in means to "reduce competition" between clans.

 

 

 

Long story short, i THINK alora just wants clans that are formed and based in alora to create a healthy in game competition without the exposure of other servers through their own platforms.

 

Let's start with your opening statement. It ends with "I have made all my comments on a unbiased platform of choice."

- While I'm not assuming the opposite, You have a clan listed in your profile. So, Most if not all people would assume you have what's called "Unconscious bias", Which also means you could type "I'm not bias" all you want because it's "unconscious"



You then instantly jump into accusing bias or sorry, "Emotional" responses for other peoples comments. I will go back and put your opening line as mine and I recommend everybody else doing the same, So therefore it can't be emotional or bias by your standards, Right?


"This is not meant to deteriorate advertising, but only stop advertising of those "clans" it self that also promote other servers as competition."

- I know that wasn't the original intention of the rule, That's part of the problem. The implications of this rule were not thought out at all it seems.



"This is meant to create a in-Alora clan base that only promotes competition towards one another without exposing their player base to other servers through their discords/clan chat methods outside of Alora. Advertising a discord that promotes other servers just cause is a "clan" in alora also is a indirect way of saying/promoting the other servers and this is just a rule that helps prevent that in its some ways."

- Why does there need to be competition? Why can't multiple communities just exist peacefully?

Also, The discord doesn't "Promote" other servers, They have multiple sections in which you can C H O O S E to be apart of, or not.

 

 

"Long story short, i THINK alora just wants clans that are formed and based in alora to create a healthy in game competition without the exposure of other servers through their own platforms."

 

- If this were the case, there would be no youtubers on the platform. There would be no voting on the platform. As these things also "promote" other servers.

 

 

I'm working on my reply to you too dw @Code 002 - Didn't wanna put 3 replies in one and make this one single post a page long.


 

Well even while voting you see advertisememts of different servers so lets stop voting too.

Retweet.

Not-a-one-word-post

Hey.

 

Long time no see.


Today, I heard about a new rule being added to the Alora.EYEOH community:

I have a few questions and comments regarding this. (Feedback, Ya know, Since this IS the feedback section.)


Question 1:
What does Alora gain from restricting the OFF-SITE "Private discords" as worded, from having other things in them?
- You're quite literally causing less advertisement for the server as a whole and trying to control what goes on in someones discord just because they also are a part of the Alora community. Forgive me if I'm wrong (lol imagine), but I'm pretty sure @Omicron pays for advertising and with this new rule you're taking away one of the best advertising methods: Word of mouth. (Google it if you're not familiar with the term)


Question 2:
Who caused this rule to be put in place?
- These type of rules are always a "Cause and effect" type scenario. The rule is the effect currently. So, What was the cause? Because from what I can see after logging in even briefly I have RSPS MERK advertising a video:



His thread:



His discord:
Now, I have been a little inactive I will admit. But, I don't think these are Alora graphics:



So, By definition of this new rule, I guess I'm making this a public report of him breaking the rule.


But wait, There's more!
While I'm at it, Let's take a look at some other things that break this joke of a rule.


The OFFICIAL Alora newspaper:



I won't link them here because it'll give you an excuse to hide this post, But almost every single one of these "Video makers" and some of the "Streamers" (top part) advertise/have videos for more than just Alora. So, I hope to see each of them punished accordingly. Aswell as every other discord, youtuber, content creator, or streamer that I can find that is breaking this new rule.


Ending notes:
Before you try to be smart with the wording of the rule: "Players are only allowed to publicly advertise ---CLANS--- on the world yell and forums, If the clan is directly related to Alora only"
If I see some stupid ass comment saying "Hurr durr they are advertising videos not clans" then ANY "Clan" that is being targetted by this can re-brand as a COMMUNITY and continue to advertise because each of these "Youtubers" have their own discords as-well that AREN'T being policed because the discords are just the youtubers "Community".

 

Side note: The "Private clan" you're targetting with this is actually an "Open cc". Whereas the one you're trying to protect is ACTUALLY classified as a "Private clan". Work on your wording.

Disclaimer:
Remember, this is a FEEDBACK section and I am giving FEEDBACK. Also, No rules were broken in the making of this post, So I hope it doesn't end up hidden. I have it saved in a notepad just incase though.

 

 

As usual, I welcome any and all comments or questions with open arms.
 

 

- Josh.

While browsing the forums earlier as most Salty Ex-Admins do.. I noticed a thread from our head server support here:

https://www.alora.io...-flies-by-fast/

 

In this post he is very humble thanking the community and staff team for allowing him to help everybody, come back, and continue to be the team.

 

But, This post isn't that post.

This post, We want to thank YOU @MT.

 

I've said it time and time again, You are easily one of the most respected staff members I have seen across my time of being staff. I know Admins who gained less respect than you. (But that's a different post for a different day.)

 

You took your demotion like a champ. Understood why it happened and didn't whine or cry about the decisions we made. Instead, you later accepted our offer for you to come back as a permanent server support which hardly anyone (myself included) would've done and just fucking killed it. Nobody ever has a chance of claiming the title of "Best server support" again after you. You will always be #1 SS and a High-Tier staff member in not only my but many others books.

 

Congrats on passing a years time back on the team. Not many people can deal with staff chats that long

 

Once again, Thank you Moral Truth for everything you do to help the staff team and community of this game.

Moe this is copyrighted by #Ice but I’ll allow it Community Pleaser

Weird, I don't recall being in ice and this looks like (is, but with @Mack and @Kharyrll balancing it better) the hardcore ironman event I did.

Best Event Manager: Tough choice, I will come back when I have made my final decision.

 

Best Administrator: Yes, We do have the best administrators thank you.

 

Best Global Moderator: Yes, We do have the best global moderators thank you.

 

Best Forum Moderator: @A

 

Best Server Moderator: @TenFour

 

Best Server Support: THE MAN, THE MYTH, T H E LEGEND @MT

 

Most active on Discord: @Mack @Kharyrll @MT

 

Most active In-game: @Kharyrll

 

Most active on Forums: @Kaamea @Hellish

 

Most Respected: @Mack

 

Most Potential Promotion: @TenFour

 

Funniest Staff Member: @Omicron

 

Overall Best Staff Member: @Mack

 

 

Players

 

 

Most Active In-game: @Ragragrag46

 

Most Active on Forums: @Mhk - Don't resign and report EVERY SINGLE THING ON THE FORUMS PLEASE

 

Most Active on Discord: @O T T O

 

Most Active Overall: @Mhk

 

Most Wealthy:

 

Most Addicted to Gambling:

 

Most Friendly: @arcadus

 

Most Respected: @KP

 

Coolest Veteran: @KP

 

Best Helper: @KP

 

Best Edgeville Pker: @KP

 

Best Hybrid: @ Easts - Rip my boy

 

Best NH Pker: @Ragragrag46

 

Best PvMer: @Adex

 

Best Raider: @Adex

 

Best Skiller: @Kharyrll - The first and ONLY maxed Gim

 

Best Clan: Whichever one can follow the yell spam rules.

 

Best Ironman: @Adex

 

Best Hardcore Ironman: @Hc adex

 

Best Ultimate Ironman: @Diseased

 

Best Elite Ironman: @Noobair

 

Best Group ironman (Team): All of them.

 

Best Group Ironman (Player): @Kharyrll

 

Best Realism Player: @KP (@Horus)

 

Best Classic Player:

 

Best GFX Designer: @Dumbshit

 

Best Youtuber: @Mob

 

Best Streamer: @Lowkey

 

Top Overall: @Everyone Except hellish