Lunchy

The GIM/EIM trading issue has been mentioned before and attempts at restrictions have been made.
If there’s a will, there’s a way - people will always buy/sell to gain an advantage. As with any MMORPG ever to exist.

The cry of ‘merge iron/normie’ just seems like your attempt at aggravating people.

There’s no need to call out people for their own perspectives and as you mentioned ‘ What's wrong? Can't handle a different perspective?’
As Ivy stated, if you have a reasonable and appropriate suggestion, no flame bait, then head to the suggestions thread and have a reasonable discussion.

Just going to leave it at that.
I hope everyone enjoy’s their day and gl on grinds.

Hello, it is me again. This time I am going to reply to the topic author with a perfected mechanic of his own, which is taking one or two sentences out of someones post and then replying to those:

 

"If you want to sell gear to each other, that's what Realism is for. " - except there is about 20 active players within the entire game mode

 

"Realism was released in 2019 with a separate eco, but it still made sense to some of you guys to support making radical changes." - I thought this thread was about Ironman integrity

 

"What's wrong?  Can't handle a different perspective?  This is a discussion thread so I'm encouraging you to talk.  Why make this personal?" - nobody has made it personal, only person wanting to make it personal is you with those 2 past topics you have created, trying to become some sort of a martyr and explaining your loss of veteran rank with those two topics, which are definitely not the case.

 

"Imagine buying a GIM/EIM tbow.  You would need to provide the 2x GIM removal tickets (2x250 tokens) + pay the person who sold you the GIM tbow." - you forgot to add the 20+ day waiting timer

 

"Great!  Now you know how the Realists felt when the staff & non-realism players started a suggestion + vote to merge a game mode they don't play." - why make this personal? this thread is about ironmen integrity, the feelings of realism players are supposedly irrelevant when it comes to ironmen modes.

 

"Flip that around.  I'm not willing to try gim right now because the gim integrity is fucked... but hey... if you fix it... I'll promise to play." - okay i flipped it around and i still have hard time to care about it because i communicate with my group as intended, not hoping for influx of realism players in order to have some sort of a marketplace.

 

 

It is not even funny, how you are pointing out the realism topic, which has been in the history books for couple of months, several times. This just shows that you are still pissed about that topic and tryna create unnecessary attention within the forums. You aren't doing your reputation a favour with that, in fact your reputation is that frog in the well you talked about.

 

Please come to a common sense and stop aggravating yourself with those discussions. You make it personal for yourself, and to nobody else. Have a great day!

I will remain neutral until we get some feedback from the Alora Veterans.

Let's face it, the realism merge topic has been dead since the suggestion got declined. Which for the realism community is a good thing!

Posting out of spite isn't the best look, which I'm sure myself and others can see, that's what this post is.

Because were having a discussion on game mode experiences, I think you forgot to add in swapping realism -> normie and vice versa. Because essentially that should be changed as well, because that's not a true "realism" experience.

Feel free to make a suggestion if you genuinely believe this would be benifical,i'm looking forward to it.https://www.alora.io.../3-suggestions/

Personally I don't like how all the different game modes have different experience rates as well as being able to sell stuff to each other, like you said it takes away from the "ironman" point of the mode. But it is what it.

 

As for your realism merge/ironman merge argument. Ironmen 99% of the time sell gear to each other, and it requires a lot more effort and money to do so. 

A realism account can simply trade other realism accounts for anything to progress, so I guess there's a bit of a difference there. 

The damage is long-done, allowing trades = profit for a business. No point bringing this up now tbh

Thankyou for explaining ironman game modes

Sometimes it feels like you just get really bored and put a topic up to create attention.

playing and banking and trading and banking and playing

 

this is the game we play and all of us have the freedom to choose their way of playing the game (gotta make sure to not break the rules), whether rest of the community appreciates it or not

 

EIM was released in 2018, GIM in 2019, wouldn't make sense to start putting in more effort to resolve those issues starting 2023.

 

Additionally, there are some limiting factors added which makes it more difficult to sell/buy those ironmen items, personally havent sold or bought any of the items over those 4 years and it doesn't bother me if others will.

Honestly not sure what this post is or why you feel the need to keep going and going? Starting to get a little weird & turning into an obsession. If you ever need to talk to someone I am here for you.

no support, doesnt need a rework. if you want bxp fill the well, if u dont then dont fill the well. Its not meant to be on 24/7 its meant to sink gold

Hello, I haven't really read the thread at all, but I got a @Mention and figured I'd link the video in question, aswell as leave some smol thoughts, and then go back to watching anime.

Using bandos and a zammy hasta, not prayer switching. First food eaten at 4 mins 40sec

*edit: On the topic of "afk", I'd consider it afk in terms of brain usage, not physically afk like sandcrabs.

My 5 cents on Phosani is that its not very punishing, and I generally wouldn't support buffing the droprates unless its made a challenge.
Nowadays if I go nightmare, I bring ely, full justiciar, and inq mace and some fun series to watch

 

On another note, all nightmare drops are super low in price, people are struggling selling eldritch orbs at 150m, helm and skirt is only like 100m ea, and I bought a staff for 160 not long ago.
I realize 510% of everyone in thread are probably super chad ironmen, and I can see how lowering droprates would be nice for ironmen who want to fill logs and get cool items etc, but the value increase for normies is None.
If there's 0 demand for an eldritch orb at 150m, lowering the droprate for an eldritch orb would just result in the player having to obtain more eldritch orbs than before to get the same amount of gp value as before. (dont yall dare to go on yell when there's 5x more pkers running around with harm staffs in wildy (jkjk idc))

 

If I was the Supreme Ruler of Alora, 'Elsacron'...
Then I'd want to increase the incentive of doing Nightmare in teams, as I really enjoyed the times when teams of 3-4 would grind nightmare together.
I'd also make phosanis more difficult. Maybe increase its ranged & melee so that its not possible to just camp mage prayer? It really feels like camping prayers shouldn't be a thing for Phosanis.

Disregard. I cannot lose my banana.

Sorry brambo

I see alot of people get super heated about nightmare being "too hard" and some statements about me are very inaccurate. And actually triggered me enough to write a wall of text.

 

1. "Mungard doesnt want it buffed cus its his money cow" I actually want it to remain a flex for those willing to grind it.

When I started doing nightmare, most groups were ending their grinds. Out of my 2000+ kc I did close to 1000 SOLO regular nightmare (With even worse odds than phosani now, while taking 13-17mins/kill), and prob another 500 were duo with @Extremedanny , and rest was trio/4mans with @Sit @mochiii (Hardcore ironmen btw), I did maybe 200 phosani and all of those (apart from 5ish) were after the nerf.(Got a mace and helmet and egg) Cus I did like 5 phosanis when it came out, and i got so tilted that i legit could hasta it down with crystal shield and camp mage pray, and maybe use 10 mantas/karams for a kill. That I havent went back till after the loot nerf. Im not the guy thats gonna complain about something being extremely broken and than turbo camp it. I did nightmare cus it was a great challenge for me and i took it personal that i couldnt get a fkn orb after receiving 3 staves. (Same reason Gimslaving did it) (Check the thread you linked, @Elsa even recorded her doing it with hasta and bandos in the thread)

 

2. People that grind nex now do it for same reason people did it when nm items were expensive: Supply/demand. Normies barely camp nex, they try get 1 drop sell it and start raiding as its alot more enjoyable. Most torva ingame is ironmen dupes that have been dropped for rank. Nobody does nightmare cus its items are worth nothing, cus so many inq items came in the game that 1 month the loot was completely broken. And there isnt any pking scene that has a need for orbs. People use it now to fill well as a set is 300m and it fills well 3x. As it has no other purpose atm, it aint a flex anymore(apart from on ironmen cus people know it must've sucked to grind it) nor is it used anywhere apart from DWH speccing corp/nex at start. I quite enjoy inq still in cox so i can scythe all vanguard/tekton/vasa without switching.

 

3. I personally think nex indeed is just as afk as nightmare with only difference that nex actually does accurate damage. If you can do the pvm while watching a serie, its not hard content. Honestly solo kree'arra might be harder than current phosani nightmare, cus with torva and blood fury, i rarely use more than 100 hp worth food/kill and thats with not even switching prays at nightmare (just camping mage pray and relying on turbo range def of torva) And dont bring the argument that you shouldnt need good gear before you camp nightmare. Bandos and hasta will do trick also, you might need 200 hp worth food a kill then. (Most people would camp nex before inq)

 

4. As I said prior, if people really want to grind phosani with better lootrates. Than they should atleast be forced to switch prayers and pay attention. Its not because its an rsps everything should be easy. You want people to PLAY/ENGAGE with the server, same reason tob was reworked, doing something correct should be rewarded. Phosani is a TanknSpank boss atm barely any switches needed.

 

5. I really dont understand why people want to make solo content easy and rewarding. For example im having alot of fun at nex now, cus everytime i think i saw the dumbest thing at nex, @Klam does a 3hp taliban zgs spec, or clicks the wrong collor tag and drinks restore istead of brew. Or fopaanz gets a b2b torva plate instead of helmet. And I'm averaging a drop there every 9-12 hours im there? (While being master donator and honestly being really spooned there). We see a drop like every 29 nex we kill as a group atm. Yet I also hear people cry about that boss. And want to know why people like @Fopaanz are 3000 kc and still miss an item? Because thats how rng works. Only reason nex is active is the items hold value. Else nobody apart from the same people that camp nightmare still, will be the only ones there. 

 

6. Nightmare and nex are very similar bosses. Their true hardness lays in the mental battle, as they're extremely tedious. People endure it at nex cus its an upgrade or atleast a payday if they get a drop. While Nightmare doesnt qualify for any of those. Nightmare legit has only its flex left of completing the log. And thats why I personally dont want a huge buff to its droprates. Every game needs a few really vile grinds that only a few will ever complete and thats perfectly fine. And then i rather have a non bis item be a flex and a turbo grind rather than a NEEDED ITEM. 

 

7. For people wanting to do nightmare, you gotta get a drop there every 7 hours MAX. Else its not worth peoples time cus you'll make more money/get actual bis doing nex which is the same, and ironmen will prioritize nex ALWAYS. And at that rate 2 weeks later you need to buff it again cus then the items are worth even less and by that time omicron will nerf the well value so it isnt even useable for that.  And might aswell delete the forum award at that point as it'll just become a generic award. 

 

8. -go afk when the room gets divided into quadrants and you'll get stacked out in seconds

If you stand in middle of the room when you kill it, you only can get husked 1x/phase, and never get flower damage. + you dont gotta move for the pillars, you only gotta survive the up to 40 damage from black holes, but they mostly happen right before pillars or during and at that point you just sang your hp up on pillars. Or eat a manta.

 

Want to flex the item? Grind it. 

Dont think the flex is worth your time? Dont grind it.

The payday not worth your time? Do something else. 

 

Once most people complaining here enter the real world outside of games they'll start realising that some things that actually really suck dealing with, might give you the most satisfaction after completing it.

"But mungard its a game", Ye and there is about 50 other bosses you can grind instead for fun. Please dont ruin one of the few grinds that're actually a struggle xD.

 

 

ps. I dislike clues can we make it so i get 15-20 items/chest its rsps after all. And apart from ranger boots none of those items considered bis. So why have to grind for it. 

if you play the roulette and out of all numbers - you pick 18...and it lands on 27.

 

is it Your fault, for being shit at the game?

 

or is it Lady luck, who is seemingly against you?

 

or is it the roulette wheel and the ball - which is against you?

 

which 1 is it bro, it Has to be 1 of the 3.

 

or do you start crying to make the roulette easier by eliminating numbers/duplicating numbers - so that you would have a better chance of winning?

 

 

 

Also, please PLEASE make Ely drop 1:9.

PLease, im so Garbage - that i need that drop man, please Omicron - please do something, i m Shit - let all know this now.

JEsus help me.

 

Get good (in All ways, however you can) & stop crying.