Viverz

Congratulations a very nice line up of gear, crazy achievement! Well done

That's one hell of a forum signature. Nice gear!

The dedication showing in that picture is HUGE! lol. Congrats on the goals accomplished and future ones to come.

Absolute unit, nice bank.

Acc looks fire man! nice

Now that is one hell of an EIM gear tab!! Keep up the grind ❤️

Absolutely huge! Was a blast nexing with you lads ❤️

I don't think this is true, at least in this case. This update was suggested and had overwhelming support, so was implemented. Search handled suggestions.

 

Perhaps I have looked at the wrong accepted suggestion (https://www.alora.io...lood/?hl=verzik) but I don't think that is suggested the latest round of updates but happy to be corrected if I am wrong.

 

The above suggestion which was accepted and was posted in May 22 pretty much covers ToB up to the version before last which was fine. I am unable to find any suggestion with high support for the latest changes.

 

I also think suggestions with 'support' isn't the way content should be polled, a dev blog of numerous potential changes should be made with voting of which they have to pass a % to be accepted in to the game. Going off a nearly 1 year old suggestion post isn't really cutting it as many things have changed since then.

Good solution would be to keep the mechanics but decrease their difficulty/lower the def of bosses (possibly only in normal mode?). I don't see how making the mechanics more similar to those of OSRS is a bad thing, but there is definitely an accessibility issue, and it makes no sense to further kill the content by making it harder. Obviously a small % of players don't agree, but a small minority shouldn't get to decide.

 

Also the KC argument doesn't really hold up. If you have high KC/a lot of the log completed already, it's not as much of an issue for you since you were able to do that when the raid was easier.

 

The fact that ToB items are so much easier to obtain from mystery boxes also needs to be looked at. 10% increase to the unique drop table wasn't enough, the rewards are not good enough for the effort/time required as Tauri and Viverz mentioned.

Hi!

My two cents on why ToB is in the state it is right now is not due to the difficulty, rather than rewards.

Lets go over the rare items quickly:

Avernic - BiS str bonus shield slot, relatively common amongst purples, so if ppl get it they dont feel like going any further.

Rapier - good melee weapon, but so is fang, blade of saeldor etc, so not absolutely essential

Justiciar armor - kekw

Sang staff - neat 4-tick staff, but consumes lots of blood runes and has +2 max hits over trident (heal kinda irrelevant)

Scythe - niche weapon, which is relatively decent in alora, but absolutely unnecessary for most of the late-game content


Okay, anything other than Avernic is not a necessity/absolute BiS in Alora. Now, if you do ToB and start getting dupes, what do you with them? There is no decent market for the items, as theyre either pricy, one-time upgrade or useless. If there would be a market for it, then it would make sense to start splitting amongst the groups of people you are doing the content with, which would give you atleast an incentive to do the content. If splitting was a thing, people would be more motivated to learn and do the content, considering how decent of a money maker it could potentially be.

In the end, its not about the difficulty, its rather the rewards which is the reason why people do not wanna tob. You get better upgrades from other raids/nex then from tob, making more sense to invest your time into other content.

What does it mean to be an ironman?

 

Normal game play -> take away the ability to trade -> gives you ironman game play

 

    Ironman game play -> take away the ability to bank -> ultimate ironman game play

 

    Ironman game play -> take away the ability to die -> hardcore ironman game play

 

    Ironman game play -> add a partner -> elite ironman game play

 

    Ironman game play -> add up to 4 partners -> group ironman game play

 

All of these game modes share the ironman concept of no trading. 

 

If that is the case, why do we allow buying and selling of GIM/EIM items?

 

That feature isn't on OSRS.  It also goes against the integrity of playing as an ironman.

 

If people can argue... Realism is too much like ironman... merge it with Normie...

 

The opposite can be said... GIM/EIM is too little like ironman (if you can openly buy/sell ironman items on yell/forums)... merge it with Normie... 

 

I don't play GIM/EIM, but I'm a member of the community, so according to Ivy logic, my opinion is justified.  

 

Auto merge the banks of anyone who bought/sold gim/eim items.  How does that make you feel?

 

 

 

I see alot of people get super heated about nightmare being "too hard" and some statements about me are very inaccurate. And actually triggered me enough to write a wall of text.

 

1. "Mungard doesnt want it buffed cus its his money cow" I actually want it to remain a flex for those willing to grind it.

When I started doing nightmare, most groups were ending their grinds. Out of my 2000+ kc I did close to 1000 SOLO regular nightmare (With even worse odds than phosani now, while taking 13-17mins/kill), and prob another 500 were duo with @Extremedanny , and rest was trio/4mans with @Sit @mochiii (Hardcore ironmen btw), I did maybe 200 phosani and all of those (apart from 5ish) were after the nerf.(Got a mace and helmet and egg) Cus I did like 5 phosanis when it came out, and i got so tilted that i legit could hasta it down with crystal shield and camp mage pray, and maybe use 10 mantas/karams for a kill. That I havent went back till after the loot nerf. Im not the guy thats gonna complain about something being extremely broken and than turbo camp it. I did nightmare cus it was a great challenge for me and i took it personal that i couldnt get a fkn orb after receiving 3 staves. (Same reason Gimslaving did it) (Check the thread you linked, @Elsa even recorded her doing it with hasta and bandos in the thread)

 

2. People that grind nex now do it for same reason people did it when nm items were expensive: Supply/demand. Normies barely camp nex, they try get 1 drop sell it and start raiding as its alot more enjoyable. Most torva ingame is ironmen dupes that have been dropped for rank. Nobody does nightmare cus its items are worth nothing, cus so many inq items came in the game that 1 month the loot was completely broken. And there isnt any pking scene that has a need for orbs. People use it now to fill well as a set is 300m and it fills well 3x. As it has no other purpose atm, it aint a flex anymore(apart from on ironmen cus people know it must've sucked to grind it) nor is it used anywhere apart from DWH speccing corp/nex at start. I quite enjoy inq still in cox so i can scythe all vanguard/tekton/vasa without switching.

 

3. I personally think nex indeed is just as afk as nightmare with only difference that nex actually does accurate damage. If you can do the pvm while watching a serie, its not hard content. Honestly solo kree'arra might be harder than current phosani nightmare, cus with torva and blood fury, i rarely use more than 100 hp worth food/kill and thats with not even switching prays at nightmare (just camping mage pray and relying on turbo range def of torva) And dont bring the argument that you shouldnt need good gear before you camp nightmare. Bandos and hasta will do trick also, you might need 200 hp worth food a kill then. (Most people would camp nex before inq)

 

4. As I said prior, if people really want to grind phosani with better lootrates. Than they should atleast be forced to switch prayers and pay attention. Its not because its an rsps everything should be easy. You want people to PLAY/ENGAGE with the server, same reason tob was reworked, doing something correct should be rewarded. Phosani is a TanknSpank boss atm barely any switches needed.

 

5. I really dont understand why people want to make solo content easy and rewarding. For example im having alot of fun at nex now, cus everytime i think i saw the dumbest thing at nex, @Klam does a 3hp taliban zgs spec, or clicks the wrong collor tag and drinks restore istead of brew. Or fopaanz gets a b2b torva plate instead of helmet. And I'm averaging a drop there every 9-12 hours im there? (While being master donator and honestly being really spooned there). We see a drop like every 29 nex we kill as a group atm. Yet I also hear people cry about that boss. And want to know why people like @Fopaanz are 3000 kc and still miss an item? Because thats how rng works. Only reason nex is active is the items hold value. Else nobody apart from the same people that camp nightmare still, will be the only ones there. 

 

6. Nightmare and nex are very similar bosses. Their true hardness lays in the mental battle, as they're extremely tedious. People endure it at nex cus its an upgrade or atleast a payday if they get a drop. While Nightmare doesnt qualify for any of those. Nightmare legit has only its flex left of completing the log. And thats why I personally dont want a huge buff to its droprates. Every game needs a few really vile grinds that only a few will ever complete and thats perfectly fine. And then i rather have a non bis item be a flex and a turbo grind rather than a NEEDED ITEM. 

 

7. For people wanting to do nightmare, you gotta get a drop there every 7 hours MAX. Else its not worth peoples time cus you'll make more money/get actual bis doing nex which is the same, and ironmen will prioritize nex ALWAYS. And at that rate 2 weeks later you need to buff it again cus then the items are worth even less and by that time omicron will nerf the well value so it isnt even useable for that.  And might aswell delete the forum award at that point as it'll just become a generic award. 

 

8. -go afk when the room gets divided into quadrants and you'll get stacked out in seconds

If you stand in middle of the room when you kill it, you only can get husked 1x/phase, and never get flower damage. + you dont gotta move for the pillars, you only gotta survive the up to 40 damage from black holes, but they mostly happen right before pillars or during and at that point you just sang your hp up on pillars. Or eat a manta.

 

Want to flex the item? Grind it. 

Dont think the flex is worth your time? Dont grind it.

The payday not worth your time? Do something else. 

 

Once most people complaining here enter the real world outside of games they'll start realising that some things that actually really suck dealing with, might give you the most satisfaction after completing it.

"But mungard its a game", Ye and there is about 50 other bosses you can grind instead for fun. Please dont ruin one of the few grinds that're actually a struggle xD.

 

 

ps. I dislike clues can we make it so i get 15-20 items/chest its rsps after all. And apart from ranger boots none of those items considered bis. So why have to grind for it. 

What is your suggestion?: being able to have more than 1 person get a drop at nex, its in osrs and nex drop rate is awful even after the buff, i really think this could help a lot.

Is this in OSRS?: Yes

Has this suggestion been accepted already?: No

How would this benefit Alora?: nex being more popular and bringing more nex items into the server

What is your suggestion?: To Add a New server location for ping for OCE/Asia Players (Australia/New Zealand)

 

Is this in OSRS?: Yes

 

Has this suggestion been accepted already?: No

 

How would this benefit Alora?:

 

OCE players in regards to high level content are kind of shafted, It makes doing highly reaction time PVM/PVP activities harder then others.

Now that is a very spoon log wtf... Congrats on finishing the set.